Making a Life Power Vitality Residence & Decreasing EMFs With Centered Life Power Vitality (FLFE)

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Katie: Whats up, and welcome to “The Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this matter is gonna be in all probability a brand new one for some individuals listening. And I’ll admit there are components of it I’m nonetheless studying and don’t totally perceive but. However we speak about creating and curating life drive vitality, additionally about issues like lowering EMFs and the way that ties in as effectively. And I’m right here with the founders of FLFE, which is Centered Life Power Vitality. And we speak about issues like excessive consciousness fields, harmonizing with versus mitigating EMFs and what that appears like, how they examined this expertise and the scientific backing for it, and a complete lot of different instructions.

 

I’m right here with two individuals, Jeff and Clayten. Clayten has over 25 years of expertise on this subject, and he’s the coed of Dr. David Hawkins in kinesiology. And he has a complete set of protocols associated to this. We get in-depth then I clarify extra what it’s. I do know it sounds slightly esoteric proper now. However he has loads of work within the exploration of consciousness and non-linear therapeutic applied sciences, together with the event of this program, FLFE with Jeff Stegman, who has centered on making a excessive consciousness tradition in his companies, and in companies round and associated to this expertise. So like I mentioned, we get into the specifics. They clarify higher than I might what that is and the way it works. However usually, it’s about making a subject inside your private home that’s calming and loving, and likewise has a measurable impact they’re discovering in analysis in harmonizing EMFs. So I’ll allow them to clarify it from right here. With out additional ado, let’s be part of Jeff and Clayten. Clayten and Jeff, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here right this moment.

 

Jeff: Glad to be with you, Katie.

 

Clayten: Good to see you, Katie.

 

Katie: I’m excited for this dialog. And we’re gonna get to go deep on one explicit matter that I believe could be considerably new for the viewers after which loads of completely different subtopics under that.

 

However earlier than we leap into that, I might love to simply let the viewers hear slightly background about each of you and the way you bought into this space of analysis. I’ve notes that, Jeff, you’re changing into a farmer to use among the issues we’re going to speak about right this moment. And that Clayten was a industrial fisherman in earlier life. So I might love to simply hear possibly among the story of what introduced you each to this work.

 

Jeff: I might begin. Yeah, it appears from an early childhood, I like science fiction. I like getting misplaced and like the potential for a a lot larger world than we noticed round us. And even in late grade college, early highschool, I did sensory deprivation experiments with myself and was searching for methods to go away my physique. However in the meantime, each toes had been on the bottom, have been on the bottom. I constructed a household enterprise with my brother, very long-term staff, and constructing a acutely aware tradition of form of, you recognize, heart-centered enterprise.

 

And that’s how I met Clayten. He was really teaching in enterprise as a religious path. And so I started to work with him. I used to be an early meditator, too. I began… My mom, she’s very sensible. I used to be smoking pot on the time in highschool, or really early eighth grade, so she launched me to transcendental meditation. And the medication ended. And I’ve meditated along with her, you recognize, for the subsequent…doing transcendental meditation via highschool.

 

So simply early on, I’ve actually been all for form of what’s behind, you recognize, what’s underneath the hood of life. And my time with Clayten, when he was teaching me, was digging underneath that hood. It’s like, he used kinesiology or muscle testing to check my stage of consciousness in numerous areas of my life. And he would discover these hidden gems that I believed I hid so effectively. Actually, generally, they had been so effectively hidden, they had been unconscious.

 

However discovering these low consciousness areas in my life then allowed me to consciously work and lift these areas up and expertise extra freedom and pleasure, you recognize, and love in these areas of my life. That was form of the trail that took us to the FLFE expertise that we found, which is a consciousness expertise that prompts excessive consciousness fields. And I can hand it off to you, Clayten. You found it then introduced me in.

 

Clayten: Yeah, effectively, as Katie mentioned, I used to be a industrial fisherman at one level in my life. And so, it does connect with my upbringing the place I discovered peace in nature. That was the place that I might at all times go. And loads of that I discovered via fishing. I spent loads of time strolling alongside the edges of rivers, and I believe in all probability the mixture of train and getting the physique drained sufficient in order that the chatter of the thoughts is diminished. And being within the presence of great thing about nature, that’s the place I discovered loads of my peace as a younger man.

 

And there have been some choices after I was in highschool. Certainly one of them was touring and seeing a little bit of the world earlier than I decided as to what I needed to do on the planet. And so, I did journey for some time. And I used to be a type of people who… Now, it’s referred to as van life, again then it was a truck and camper. So, I like, “Oh, you recognize, I need to have a spot to sleep. I don’t need to sleep in a tent.” So I purchased an outdated truck and an outdated camper and an outdated… I believe they name them beaters. I don’t know what they name beaters down the place you reside, however they name them beaters up right here.

 

So I drove round Canada for a couple of yr and, you recognize, I did form of labor-type jobs. So fishing was one in every of them. I labored within the oil subject, you recognize. I did labor jobs. I used to be a younger man with not loads of schooling and coaching, in order that’s the work that was accessible to me.

 

And I received concerned in a philosophical group fairly, fairly deeply. I used to be actually all for making an attempt to make sense of some issues in my life and on the planet. And so, I figured I wanted to get actually good at one explicit approach of taking a look at life. And so I select a philosophy and I received deeply concerned in that. And that led me into schooling.

 

I spent about 11 years from about ’84 to ’95 within the schooling subject. I used to be a industrial fisherman for some time. And I form of went again to that a part of my life as a result of I actually loved it. However my love for schooling and educating and studying was larger. In order that led me into particular person teaching again in 1995, which is historical within the teaching world.

 

And since I’d spent 11 years on this Japanese-based philosophy, earlier than that in working in personal colleges, I selected a specialty of working with enterprise leaders who thought of enterprise their religious path. And I selected that as a result of, on the planet, it appears that evidently enterprise has the facility proper now for good or for unhealthy, proper? Previously, it may need been the humanities or, you recognize, sure time in our historical past, it was a faith or spiritual establishments.

 

So I figured I might do essentially the most good on the planet with the least quantity of effort. I imply, it’s only one particular person. Not that I didn’t need to make an effort, however you form of search for that candy spot the place you are able to do essentially the most good along with your effort. And for me, it was enterprise leaders who thought of their enterprise as their religious path.

 

Jeff and I are gearheads. So we wish to tinker with issues and machines. And I labored at a gasoline station like 4 years, half time, after I was in highschool. I took the educational half of highschool, however I additionally took store. I took auto store and machine store and electronics and blueprint studying. So it’s fairly oriented in the direction of that. My dad was a tradesman printer and so our household was form of technical that approach.

 

And so, finally, you recognize, and a mix of exploring kinesiology and being all for form of machines and schooling, I got here throughout this inventor who was a part of a bunch of inventors who…they had been making an attempt to create a free vitality system for humanity. And so they didn’t do this. However they form of stumbled upon a method to focus lifeforce vitality on objects.

 

Little did I do know that was the start of the FLFE, you recognize, journey. Yeah, this man was simply form of energizing these crystals and placing them round his home. And his home was like wonderful. And it’s such a highly-charged surroundings. So I received to know this gentleman, and we labored collectively for a number of years after which I launched Jeff to him. And yeah, it’s a part of the journey.

 

Katie: I very a lot resonate along with your story in saying, like, “The place can my effort take advantage of distinction and supply essentially the most love?” And for me, I’m in deep gratitude on daily basis that my work is with different girls and mothers. As a result of, for me, I believe that’s a part of my life goal is that we help mothers. We help not simply mothers, however households and the tradition as a complete. And in order that’s why I used to be excited to get to have this dialog with you guys.

 

And also you talked about excessive consciousness fields, which I’m guessing is a brand new time period, doubtlessly, for lots of people listening. So I might love to start out very primary and broad and have you ever guys clarify that idea and possibly give some examples to assist individuals form of perceive and anchor what meaning.

 

Jeff: Mm hmm. We consider that consciousness is in every single place. That it’s throughout us. And we observe Dr. David Hawkins’ work. Certainly one of his books is “Energy vs. Power.” And he outlined consciousness fields and ranges of consciousness. And I might say that we expertise this on daily basis. That everybody experiences it on daily basis.

 

So for those who’re strolling all over the world, and also you go into someplace that’s very elevated, it’s a excessive consciousness space. In order that could possibly be, you recognize, a synagogue or church or cathedral, significantly among the cathedrals in Europe, very excessive as a result of they had been designed that approach with the structure and the form of the options of the earth the place they constructed the cathedrals.

 

So whenever you stroll into a spot like that, I skilled it in my physique, it’s like an vitality, like virtually an pleasure and a calmness. Like my thoughts begins to essentially settle down. And I’ve observed that in cathedrals, after I was touring Europe, the place I might stroll within the door, I might really feel just like the nearer I received to the entrance of the…to the nave, the entrance of the church, the stronger it received, and clean or my thoughts went. And what that what that impact is strolling right into a excessive consciousness subject that’s getting greater and better, the nearer you get to the place the place the priesthood would do his factor.

 

In low consciousness fields, you might expertise in an outdated jail, a battleground. Like, for those who’ve ever been to a type of locations, there’s this form of a low-energy feeling like a heaviness, possibly even feelings or ideas might come up. And we consider that thought kinds and feelings might be current traditionally in a location like that, or each location that human beings are such robust broadcasters of our vitality that it may be held in a crystalline construction of the constructing supplies or the bottom or drywall even.

 

 

So these are some examples strolling round. And it’s form of that feeling individuals speak about, like, “I don’t just like the vitality of this place.” or, “This feels actually good.” Effectively, it’s a sense in our our bodies. And we consider our our bodies are very delicate devices to this as a result of it’s a part of our survival. Such as you stroll into a spot that doesn’t really feel good, you get on edge, you recognize, you’re like wanting over your shoulder, like, what’s occurring right here? And that, you recognize, helps us to take care of what could be coming. So we consider these fields are in every single place. And what the FLFE expertise does is to activate a excessive consciousness subject just like the cathedral really feel.

 

Katie: Clayten, do you have got any follow-up to that earlier than I ask add-on query?

 

Clayten: , I’ve some sensible examples of this. And possibly one that will not be distinctive to girls, however I believe they’ll admire. A sensible instance of a excessive consciousness subject could be your considering… There’s an simple bond, in my expertise, and within the expertise of each mom I’ve ever talked to, between a mom and her baby. It’s not that males don’t have a connection as effectively. But it surely’s only a completely different connection.

 

So whenever you’re considering of any person, and also you’re questioning how they’re doing, and also you’re sending them a constructive thought, after which they name you, they mentioned, “I used to be simply occupied with you,” proper? I’ve by no means talked to a mom who doesn’t find out about that.  So that will be an instance of a excessive consciousness subject.

 

Now, I imply, that might flip to fret. As a substitute of like consciousness, it might flip to fret and concern. However I might say that the FLFE expertise has some parallels to the capability that people must create a connection between love and one other particular person or one other area.

 

And I don’t know why I’m simply having this thought to let you know the story. So I’ve some mates on Salt Spring Island in Canada. I used to stay in Vancouver. I’m up in Nelson now. That’s the place the pinnacle workplace of the corporate is.

 

And I went over to Salt Spring Island to go to these individuals. And this woman, she was…there was a bunch of birthing. There was a birthing class there. I don’t know in the event that they referred to as them doulas or it was simply girls who assist infants get born. There’s a reputation for it, it’s going to come to me. Midwives.

 

So this woman was on this group. And it simply so occurred that morning, one of many mornings I used to be there, there was a delivery that occurred. She’d been up many of the night time, and this child had been born. And he or she got here again to the home for a minute as a result of she needed to get one thing and she or he went to return.

 

And the vitality that she got here in with was, it was extraordinary. And it’s like, I mentioned, “What simply occurred? You’re simply glowing.” She mentioned, “Effectively, this child simply received born.” And he or she mentioned, “It’s like a miracle.” , it’s an vitality of like miraculous magnificence and love. And I used to be identical to, to today, I identical to, I can simply take into consideration that and I can really feel it.

 

And he or she mentioned, “, I’m simply considering of getting one other baby. It’s such a ravishing factor to deliver into the world.” And for some cause, I’m getting… I’ve by no means advised that story to very many individuals, however I believe, for you, Katie, that simply feels so related as a result of loads of the individuals you serve are moms.

 

And if a mom has skilled that, she’s skilled a unprecedented vitality subject. As a result of I believe, when a baby will get born, one thing occurs that’s wonderful. And I haven’t seen a delivery. And I haven’t actually been shut to at least one. However that’s the closest I’ve ever been possibly inside quarter-hour, half an hour.

 

So, FLFE can’t create that kind of surroundings, but it surely does create like a sanctuary, a sacred, like a holy place form of surroundings in its personal approach. It relies upon, you recognize. Folks have loads of affect on it. We simply can’t make the surroundings be a sure approach. However we will actually have it’s a kind of, you recognize, a consciousness stage that’s unconditionally loving. After which it’s as much as everyone else so as to add to what they will and what they need from there.

 

Katie: I like that you simply used that for example. I’m really a doula and have began supply coaching. In all probability, the six most impactful moments of my life are the six moments that my kids had been born. And I believe you’re precisely spot on. And I’ve now had the respect of being at many births as effectively, and holding area for these girls. And there’s a very particular shift in that room, particularly like main as much as and round that second of delivery.

 

And I keep in mind very clearly, when my first baby was born, that simply overwhelming feeling of affection and bliss and peace and like that connection that was instant to him. And like having that realization of, “Wow. I like individuals in my life. However I’ve by no means skilled this stage of affection till this second.”

 

And it was neat as a result of that then, I really feel like, rippled out to different relationships in my life. Prefer it upgraded my capability to like everybody, not simply my child. And so after we speak about consciousness, I believe you’re proper. Mothers can resonate with that innate feeling that possibly you may’t tangibly put into phrases so simply, however you recognize that feeling on the subject of your kids.

 

I do really feel like in all probability everybody has heard of the time period consciousness by now. It’s simply tossed round loads. I believe generally possibly it will get misused or tied into loads of different issues. However let’s go slightly deeper on the thought of consciousness You talked about Dr. Hawkins. Form of stroll us via how that is measured or possibly simply give us some tangible metrics. As a result of I believe it may possibly really feel like an summary idea to lots of people. So I’d like to form of like anchor that in and make it as tangible as doable earlier than we leap into extra specifics.

 

Jeff: I might begin and hand it off to you, Clayten. Yeah, these examples, you recognize, that second of a child being born, which I’ve skilled twice with my very own kids. And I used to be simply getting goosebumps whereas we had been speaking about it.

 

So, you recognize, there’s a consciousness subject there that will get activated. After which we will take into consideration that and entry it ourselves later, such as you mentioned. And as we mentioned, there’s excessive fields just like the cathedrals. There’s decrease locations, like, you recognize, the place there’s been grief or torture, you recognize, tragedy of some variety. Actually, in Japan, if somebody commits suicide in an condominium, individuals gained’t hire it as a result of there’s extra more likely to be one other suicide. In order that’s a consciousness subject there.

 

So Dr. David Hawkins created the Map of Consciousness that goes from one, you recognize, there’s at all times some consciousness to infinity. So you might say the divinity is infinity. And within the human realm, it’s to 1000. And so forth that scale, which is logarithmic, every level upward is 10 instances extra vitality current within the subject. So down under, 200 on that map, you recognize, there’s lethargy and melancholy and among the decrease vitality, decrease consciousness subject. So like, for those who’re round any person that’s depressed, that heavy feeling, that’s a low consciousness subject. After which, as you progress over 200, you’re transferring into hope and into the love zone at 500. And I’ll allow you to take it from there, Clayten, you’ve received a lot expertise on this.

 

Clayten: We do loads of kinesiology testing, Katie, within the firm. And so, unconditional love begins round 540. And round 600, you begin to get into peace, 700 on the Hawkins map is enlightenment. And from 700 to 1000 are form of the realms of the mystic enlightened beings who lived on the planet, the Buddhas, the Krishnas, the Jesus, these sorts of beings.

 

In case you’re taking a look at among the feelings under 200, sometimes, the size of consciousness begins at 20 at disgrace, then 50 is form of apathy, 100 is worry, 150 is anger, 190 is form of extreme delight. And it’s simply form of that 200 mark is the place issues develop into constructive.

 

So we now have braveness at 200, 250 is impartial, 300 is willingness. Yeah, 300-350 is willingness, like nearer to 350. Then 400 is cause, whenever you get into logic and the professions like accounting, you recognize, skilled requirements, authorized career. And 500 is love.

 

And so, the FLFE surroundings, we assure it, will probably be at… So we now have a consciousness slider the place you may really slide the extent of consciousness and transfer it up and down in your property. It should by no means take vitality away. However it’s going to add it as much as that stage to make sure it’s at that stage or extra. And you may transfer it from 400 to 570.

 

So the default for FLFE is 550. And that’s the space of unconditional love, so it’s 550 out of 1000. We assure that 98% of the time, or no matter stage you set it at, 98% of the time over a 24-hour interval. As a result of issues do occur in a home or in any surroundings the place there’s a disruption for slightly bit.

 

And also you need to positively affect the surroundings, however you don’t need to take individuals’s management away. I imply, you’re a sovereign particular person. It’s not anyone’s place to manage it. However we do add loads of like to it. After which, from there, it’s what individuals make of it.

 

We even have issues like boosts. You possibly can enhance the consciousness for half an hour as much as 600. So these issues like… As a result of we now have a management panel, you go in, and also you get to be your individual consciousness experimenter, or I suppose… Can we name it that, Jeff? Can we name it that? Yeah, that’s kinda the title for it, however you get to experiment with ranges of consciousness in your individual approach of referring to it.

 

Katie: I consider that as I usually discuss concerning the vitamin and bodily well being aspect. And I say usually to individuals, “You’re your individual major healthcare supplier and your individual well being researcher. And you may work with wonderful practitioners and companions in that. However on the finish of the day, that experimentation and that duty resides in every of us individually, and nobody else can take over that duty for us.” And so I really feel like that is making use of that very same concept to this different realm that possibly individuals haven’t thought of.

 

And also you talked about kinesiology, and I’ll admit that is an space I haven’t completed a ton of analysis on it, and I do know I like have it up to now at the very least been skeptical about, and I’m making an attempt to know higher. So I might love so that you can clarify kinesiology and the way that course of works slightly bit for those who don’t thoughts.

 

Jeff: So form of going again to the sensitivity that all of us have, so whenever you stroll into that room, and it doesn’t really feel proper or the vitality feels good. So we consider our our bodies are devices, robust devices, for measuring consciousness round us, these consciousness fields.

 

And kinesiology is a muscle testing. So this has, you recognize, been pioneered by various individuals. And Dr. Hawkins took it to a different stage the place it’s the power of the muscle within the presence of fact. So the idea is that we’re related in our core to all that’s, whether or not it’s dimensional or it’s divine, nevertheless you consider it. We’re related to all that’s. And that presence of fact is strengthening to the system. And the presence of falsehood is weakening. So it’s the precept of the power of the muscle, you recognize, within the presence of an announcement.

 

So the assertion, you recognize, it’s both true or it’s not true. And there could also be gradation. So we measure on a scale the place we might say, you recognize, on a scale of 1 to 1000, Dr. David Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness, stage of consciousness of this property over the earlier 24 hours calibrates at, you recognize, robust 200 or extra, robust 400 or extra, robust 500 or extra, weak 600 or extra. After which again up, you recognize, 520 or extra robust, 530 or extra, 540 or extra robust, 550 weak. It’s between 540 and 550.

 

So, we now have a crew of people who do that testing. And what we do is we take a look at individually, after which, you recognize, examine. So we’re doing the testing of the properties, after which Clayten and I’ve completed thousands and thousands of those sorts of checks on the event of FLFE. And yeah, it’s a bit on the market.

 

However you see it in allergists. I went to an allergist the place he had a cuff on me that measured the strain of his finger in order that it wouldn’t…you recognize, he wasn’t urgent more durable on my arm to maintain it, you recognize, make it go down. After which, he would hand me these jars of supplies, and I might put it near my chest, and I’d be robust, robust, till I received a jar that I used to be allergic to, after which it will be weak. In order that was an attention-grabbing form of a approach of measuring the drive the that you simply’re placing on the arm. And you probably have one other query or we will go it on to Clayten.

 

Clayten: One other sensible instance of kinesiology that’s utilized in day-to-day life is allergists but additionally nutritionists. In case you go to a nutritionist, they’ll maintain dietary supplements in entrance of you, they usually’ll scale them as to how good they’re.

 

And I’ve been going to chiropractors for, I don’t know, 20-something years. And though my favourite ones and those that I hold going again to are those that do kinesiology. You’re on the desk. They do a few customary changes. After which, you recognize, sometimes, if I’m mendacity there, they’ll put my arm up, they usually’ll push it down and see how robust it’s. And if it’s weak, then they’ll do a few changes, after which it’s stronger, proper? And so they’ll go to the opposite arm or they’ll go to the leg. And, you recognize, that’s a type of kinesiology.

 

I don’t know a lot about chiropractic, however I used to be advised there’s seven colleges of chiropractic, and one in every of them is kinesiology centered. And that’s the way it appears to be like like in a chiropractor’s workplace, the place they’ll assess your physique. They make an adjustment. They take a look at the power of the muscle. And that’s how they know the adjustment is finished. And so it’s used loads on the planet. It’s simply the consciousness facet of it’s, it’s form of distinctive. Effectively, it’s an rising subject. I wouldn’t say it’s distinctive, it’s rising.

 

Katie: Yeah, and I believe I’ve solely ever actually had publicity to it within the chiropractic context. And I’m glad I’ve you guys right here to ask this as a result of I’ve been so genuinely interested in this for a very long time. And form of the concept’s been popularized just lately of the thought of Biology of Perception, and if we consider one thing, that may affect.

 

And so I’ve at all times puzzled, on the subject of kinesiology and muscle testing, does bias on the a part of both the particular person being examined, or the tester come into play in any respect? I do know you mentioned it’s centered in reality and true statements. I’ve simply been very interested in that. Like if somebody believes one thing is nice for them, would the physique reply extra strongly? Or, if the tester believes one thing is nice for them, does that affect it in any respect?

 

Clayten: One of many methods you’d take care of that’s you’d do what we name blind testing. Let’s say that I used to be the calibrator. I used to be making the assertion. You had been the topic, Katie, I’ll be pushing your arm down. And Jeff was the auditor. Proper? In order that’s how we’ll sometimes be taught kinesiology collectively. So you have got a calibrator, a topic, and an auditor.

 

So on this case, the auditor wouldn’t have a lot of a task. However what I might do is I might make the constructive declarative assertion solely in my thoughts. You wouldn’t know what I’m saying. In order that’s one method to handle bias. And one other approach is to essentially have your declarative statements be pristine of their accuracy. In case you get adequate at this, you may measure the extent of consciousness of your statements.

 

And, you recognize, over time, there are methods to… , after we do our property testing, there’s often at the very least three of us. So there’s methods of searching for statistical validation via imply averages of teams. There’s methods to handle it. And to say that bias doesn’t matter, I don’t suppose could be a good assertion. You simply must be taught to handle bias.

 

Like if there’s a subject, you may take a look at your stage of consciousness of fact on that matter, proper? After which you may take a look at the extent of acutely aware…of your intent in the direction of an consequence. So there’s a bunch of issues you are able to do to extend the chances of you getting good information within the surroundings, together with testing unknown controls, you recognize, earlier than you go in.

 

So it’s a career. Lots of people simply suppose, “Oh, I might simply decide up a e book and be taught it and a half an hour.” It’s like, effectively, possibly you may, however if you wish to get good at it, my sense is it takes a few years. That’s what your expertise is, Jeff, like.

 

Jeff: Yeah, I believe the bias, it’s an essential query. And a few of these biases are unconscious. And that’s why we now have teams, you recognize, as a result of… and we’ll be engaged on one thing and two of us get one reply, one particular person will get one other, “All proper, let’s cease. Let’s…” , could possibly be that one particular person has develop into dehydrated as a result of the physique must be in actually good condition, so having hydration at a sure stage. If it will get low sufficient…I don’t know for those who’ve ever skilled that we get cranky, whenever you get, you’re thirsty. That’s like, that’s a swap. So that you’ve gone adverse. So that you really get the alternative end in kinesiology when that occurs.

 

Yeah, it’s an attention-grabbing topic. And we’ve been deep in it for 10 years or so, and Clayten for much longer earlier than that, however he taught me do it. After which we now have a crew of individuals within the enterprise that help us.

 

And it’s actually an attention-grabbing instrument. I imply, you may actually uncover issues, the reality of one thing. And on the subject of analysis within the enterprise… So we work with Dr. Gary Schwartz on our analysis crew. He’s written various books within the College of Arizona. And he’s been an important bridge between science and a few of these new vitality therapeutic methods. He’s completed fairly a little bit of analysis with biophoton cameras and Reiki and other forms of methods. And he’s actually eager to do a kinesiology research with us this yr. So we’re seemingly to do this this yr.

 

Katie: It does really feel like we’re in a spot the place we’re beginning to see that merge of expertise and science, understanding issues which have actually form of an age outdated and loads of different practices. And it’s actually fascinating to me to get to look at that development occur. And I might go, in all probability ask a ton extra questions on kinesiology.

 

However I need to ensure we really get again to this expertise, as a result of I believe you defined actually clearly that feeling. And I’m positive individuals can consider instances of their lives. Like, I’ve additionally walked into cathedrals and felt that shift and even locations in nature, the place I felt, shift, or felt it when my kids had been born. But in addition, we will’t, sadly, usually, all of us stay in these locations the place always simply have infants to get to expertise that. So I’d love to speak about the way you guys are merging the expertise with this consciousness form of age-old science that has at all times existed to create this, and the way we will all create these greater consciousness fields in our personal lives.

 

Clayten: Effectively, we form of stumbled upon a expertise that existed. The intent, as I mentioned, was to create a free vitality system for humanity. And this gentleman’s intent was to…he was a male, proper, instrument and die maker, electrician. He was an older German man who was extremely succesful by way of technical abilities. And the best way he associated to divinity was actually via making stuff. , that’s simply how we did it. And a few persons are farmers or household man or household girls or, no matter, businesspeople. And his approach was to make stuff. I believe it’s essential to keep in mind that intent issues loads. And divinity expresses via every thing. It expresses via nature. It’s kinda simpler to seek out, for me, there. Some individuals specific this via expertise.

 

And this expertise was born out of intent to serve. And he spent loads of years at it, and I helped him refine it fairly a bit, loads. After which we took it to a complete different stage. So there’s an rising group of applied sciences which are in a position to help humanity, identical to the inner combustion engine supported humanity. And I’m simply speaking from an actual broad spectrum right here. Jeff, I’ll hand it over to you in a minute.

 

I imply, we’re speaking on computer systems which have fiber optics, you recognize, or cables going into the bottom, or the radio transmissions going to the air. And we’re in a position to be of service to your viewers, Katie, and also you’re in a position to assist, you recognize, the ladies in your life that you simply need to join with. So, you recognize, we’re fairly oriented in the direction of service and divinity and a better energy and excessive consciousness fields. In order that’s the best way that we see the world. And that’s the best way that we body it.

 

And there’s all sorts of applied sciences on the market. We simply purchased a Skinner system, which is a makes use of a constructive electrical stimulus to assist strengthen, I suppose, the construction of the physique the place it’s used. I’ve simply been stepping into Jerry Tennant’s work slightly bit extra. He talks concerning the significance of voltage within the physique, and create your constructive voltage. So there’s a lot of rising applied sciences on the market that may help us to be more healthy. And, you recognize, we’re one in every of them.

 

Jeff: So it truly is similar to human consciousness and that mechanism of considering of somebody after which, you recognize, feeling love and sending them love. What we consider occurs is there’s a subject activated round the person who’s full of affection. And that’s what they really feel, they usually profit from that. And, you recognize, distant prayer, among the analysis on simply distant prayer and Reiki and different energetic drugs, at a distance is identical mechanism.

 

There’s a system. There’s a bodily FLFE system that’s, you might say, a quantum vitality system, a consciousness system. So, it has, initially, the unique inventor was working with related expertise to Nikola Tesla. Initially, it was excessive velocity alternating present working via coils and plates. And it was creating an lively subject via that oscillation.

 

And it’s developed since then to not want the electrical energy in that approach. However primarily ideas, identical to us figuring out somebody, you recognize, we consider sister or brother, the FLFE system makes use of distinctive identifier. So it could be a telephone quantity, which identifies a mobile system. It could be an deal with that identifies a property. It could be coordinates, you recognize, and the area across the coordinates. And so with that identification, then there’s a quantum connection and the sector’s activated at that location. So identical to human consciousness, our system works.

 

And so we’re placing into this technique written directions that establish that location, that has the distinctive identifier in it. And, you recognize, that’s activating the sector. We’ve completed various experiments alongside the best way to say, “How can we quantify this?” , how will you see this? It’s so esoteric sounding, proper?

 

Effectively, what we’ve completed is these blinded experiments now with vegetation rising. And in order that activation of the sector in an surroundings, vegetation are rising a lot quicker. , we noticed in very early preliminary experiments, 29% improve in development. And we’re seeing the same form of 14% to 29% improve in yield in a big farm research that we did this previous yr, the place we had farmers doing natural grains, historical grains, and a part of fields on FLFE, and a part of it wasn’t. So we had controls. And so they had been measuring the bushels per acre with their subtle farm gear. And there was like 14% to twenty-eight% improve in yield.

 

I imply, in order that was, the farmer didn’t know which, you recognize, acres the place which. And that was a follow-on to a few of these different plant experiments the place life is benefiting. You possibly can see it within the plant development. And that got here out of the tales of FLFE clients. So, FLFE is a subscription service. So, I suppose, we should always say that the place individuals…it’s $35, for the very best finish. After which for households, we now have some lower cost ranges for youngsters’s telephones and issues like that, all the way down to $10 or $12 a month.

 

However that activation within the subject, individuals had been seeing their vegetation rising, they usually had been seeing their yards wanting greener, and their shrubs wanting greener in comparison with the place down the road. And that’s what led us to those, you recognize, experiments. And that’s form of the pathway for us is, we heard first from the purchasers and from our personal experiences within the subject. After which we’ve taken it into analysis. And we’ve completed some work with IONS, the Institute of Noetic Sciences. They’ve completed experiments on the FLFE surroundings. After which Dr. Gary Schwartz and our analysis crew are engaged on various different experiments.

 

Clayten: Effectively, there’s a analysis tab on our web site the place you may go in and take a look at the analysis that we did with the Institute of Noetic Sciences and with a gasoline discharge visualization digicam in an surroundings which confirmed much less chaos within the surroundings, extra concord. We’ve got six or seven experiments up there. Anyway, we had one the place individuals had, you recognize, these issues that they put in your physique, they usually measure your brainwaves.

 

Jeff: EEG.

 

Clayten: EEG, yeah. I used to be gonna say EKG, but it surely was EEG. So there was a rise in sure brainwaves which are related to, you recognize, peace and concord, government capabilities as effectively. So there’s extra alpha waves than the earlier one. So there’s fairly a little bit of analysis that we even have completed. So it’s not simply us saying one thing with out having proof to again it up.

 

Jeff: And the mind analysis at IONS actually got here out of fogeys speaking about adjustments of their kids, significantly round homework and college efficiency. So when there’s extra life-force vitality in an area, so we talked about going right into a cathedral and there’s that basically enlivened feeling. When there’s extra life-force vitality accessible, it comes into the physique and, you recognize, people who follow yoga may know it’s prana. In Chinese language drugs, it’s Qi. And that circulate of Qi via the physique is admittedly essential for our well being.

 

When there’s extra Qi, prana, lifeforce vitality, they’re all the identical factor. Within the surroundings, our physique is pulling that in and utilizing it, together with for cognition. And when there’s elements of the mind which are starved for vitality as a result of they’re working actually laborious, one in every of our FLFE, what we name applications, our ideas within the subject, is for extra vitality to go to the areas the place there’s the least vitality accessible. And in order that has proven up in individuals simply feeling like they’ve extra vitality via the day and efficiency.

 

At IONS – and this was a small research, and we have to observe it up with a bigger research, that’s the form of course of we’re on is you do a preliminary research – there was a rise in cognitive operate with a research group who had been in an FLFE surroundings in comparison with people who weren’t or in comparison with being not in an FLFE surroundings prior. In order that lifeforce vitality accessible to the physique is among the common rules that we speak about. Loads of yogis and folks in numerous Japanese philosophies wish to focus prana via chanting and breath management, you recognize, particular respiratory practices. Feng Shui is designed to pay attention extra vitality in an area. After which, we’re a expertise so as to add much more vitality.

 

Katie: I’ll ensure I, you recognize, have that analysis tab you talked about. I’ll ensure that’s linked within the present notes for everyone listening, that’s wellnessmama.fm, you guys can discover all of that. And I need to ensure we speak about EMFs too. So I’m gonna put that on the within the parking zone to return again to in a minute.

 

However first, I’d love to know, I discover it so fascinating, this concept of merging the expertise with these fields of consciousness. And so, I do know it’s additionally slightly bit sophisticated. However are you able to clarify slightly bit extra tangibly for individuals who might have bother greedy, together with me, on how that is then, like, centered? Like, the place’s it coming from? How’s it created? After which how can we focus it on someplace that’s far-off? As a result of that is tremendous fascinating.

 

Clayten: Effectively, we now have a machine. And as Jeff mentioned, it has all these coils and stacks. It pulls vitality from what some individuals name the ether. It simply pulls vitality from the surroundings. And it focuses it and finally concentrates it in an space the place there’s a fairly a excessive consciousness subject. After which from there, it goes out these stacks. We name them output stacks. So, enter stacks and output stacks. After which the underside of the output stack, there’s an space, it was about this massive. Katie, it was like three inches by 5 inches, one thing like that. Once we’re experimenting, we might put three by 5 playing cards in there. And we make these little requests to divinity.

 

, “Pricey divinity, please, assist this particular person with, you recognize, they’ve received an issue with their liver. They received actually unhealthy psoriasis, please assist them with their psoriasis.” And we put that within the machine. And you place the particular person’s image in as a result of they needed to come into this adventurous place. They heard about them. And they might really feel a constructive profit, and possibly a few of their psoriasis went away.

 

So then we, you recognize, did extra analysis on well being and possibly found that, “Effectively, in case your liver is extra energized, then it helps with the psoriasis.” So we will make these extra subtle requests over time. And in the future, this gentleman was, effectively, he was taking these crystals and charging them up and placing them round his home. And that’s when Jeff came visiting to the area. It was a unprecedented area. And he would cost up these crystals. And so in the future he had this piece of a damaged tabletop, it’s a granite counter. And he put it on this area and was charging it up.

 

And he pulled it out, and the telephone rang, and it was a good friend, and he was speaking to his good friend, and he was on the telephone for 10 or quarter-hour, and he had this piece of marble in his hand. And when he hung the telephone up, he realized that the arthritis in his hand was gone, couldn’t really feel any extra ache. And it was as a result of he was holding on to this piece of crystal with this super-high vitality round it. And so, he put it in his different hand and went away. After which, you recognize, after about two weeks, he observed that the cost went out of the crystal. However within the meantime, he’s been sending crystals to his mates, to individuals all around the world, they usually had been holding it and their arthritic ache would go away.

 

So we don’t make well being claims. However what he did was he put an image of…he put the individuals within the machine, after which individuals would ship it again. Or he would ship them a brand new one. It was costing like some huge cash in courier charges, which is form of ridiculous, proper? As a result of for those who ship it by mail, they usually solely lasted two weeks, we’re gonna have per week when it received to ship in a single day, and it will price some huge cash.

 

So then we found out that we might take an image of the crystal, and if it was a excessive sufficient decision, you might put that within the machine, and it will cost a crystal from the opposite aspect of the planet. So he had all these photos of all these crystals within the machine and folks had been holding on that and their arthritis was going away. And in order that’s the way it works, Katie. It was primarily based upon the precept, as Jeff mentioned earlier, of the distinctive identifier. So that you needed to have an image of the crystal.

 

What we finally found out is we might put… So we made this output, this excessive consciousness subject on the backside of the output stack larger and larger and larger. So it’s like three toes tall. We’re placing all these addresses in it, you recognize, and we made our personal machine and taking them out. It was like such a nuisance. Then in the future, we figured that we might put directions in there to inform the expertise to go to the database and take the instruction from the database and create that very same subject wherever on the planet. In order that was the evolution of it.

 

So now we now have this database, and we make these requests to divinity as Jeff mentioned. Like, “, please do that. Please do this. Please do that.” All these good issues you may think about that you’d ask for somebody that you simply cared about. That’s what we do. We requested for all these items to occur. And, you recognize, we will’t actually management what occurs. We do have loads of affect over the extent of consciousness on the surroundings. After which we make all these requests. After which, it appears that evidently if the particular person has alignment with these request, they occur faster. And if the particular person is admittedly proof against the constructive requests, effectively, that’s their very own free will. Proper. So we will’t make you have got the life you need, but it surely does provide you with 10 instances extra vitality with each improve in your stage of consciousness.

 

So, let’s say, proper now, the common dwelling in America is about 250 out of 1000 on the Hawkins’ map. Now, again in 2019, it in all probability would have been, I do know, 350 or 380, like that’s the common, proper? So that you’re going up, maybe two or 300 factors on the Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness in a house. And each a type of factors is 10 instances extra vitality. So it’s a really refined vitality. However you have got that rather more vitality to give attention to the stuff you need and create the life that you simply’re intending. In order that’s form of the way it works.

 

Katie: Jeff, did you have got any follow-up, or can I transfer into the EMF angle?

 

Jeff: No, I believe that’s nice to maneuver into that as a result of it pertains to the way it works, too.

 

Katie: Yeah, I figured that may result in some good follow-up. I do know for mothers, loads of mothers, this can be a top-of-mind matter as a result of, clearly, we now have way more of those EMFs in our life than we did a pair many years in the past and positively than we did a pair 100 years in the past. And now with 5G, that’s an enormous matter for lots of mothers and kinda the fixed publicity to those completely different EMFs.

 

So I might love to listen to, I do know you guys have completed analysis on this and that there’s a approach that this really might help with this EMF equation, however are you able to stroll us via and clarify what’s occurring in that state of affairs?

 

Jeff: Sure. In order we talked about, we’re testing properties for his or her stage of consciousness to achieve our promised stage. Day by day, new properties are available in on. Each week, on Saturday, all of the properties on the system. And we observed, we had been getting properties that weren’t on the stage. They had been 10 factors, 20 factors decrease. And so we might discover a property via utilizing kinesiology. We’d name the client. And we’d ask if something’s modified. And so they had been telling us, very persistently, {that a} sensible meter, you recognize, financial institution was put in final week, or a brand new cell tower simply received turned down throughout the road, or we simply received a brand new router. That there was a connection between a decrease consciousness surroundings and a brand new EMF affect.

 

And so, we realized that, you recognize, that’s an indicator of a decrease well being stage, decrease vitality stage, and fewer lifeforce vitality there. That’s form of our perspective on EMFs, that we take a look at vitality or consciousness decreasing EMFs. As a result of some issues, some EMFs, are constructive, you recognize. The vitality that our hearts emit after we’re feeling love. And there’s energies from the earth, vibrations from the earth which are constructive, from the solar.

 

So what we did is we researched, you recognize, what’s the most acceptable materials to harmonize EMFs? So you might attempt to block and deflect, soak up – for those who’re deflecting, it’s going to any person else’s home is to harmonize it or to place an overlay on it that has it develop into constructive. And so shungite is the fabric that we found in our analysis that many individuals have additionally used. And it’s one thing you may experiment with at dwelling. You may get sheets of shungite, and you’ll put it on to a router, or onto a wise meter financial institution.

 

And what we’ve completed with the FLFE expertise is, so like I mentioned, you must again up just a bit. So we consider that there’s an lively essence related to each materials. And you may take a look at homeopathy and different implies that use very, very low quantities of fabric to have an impact the place the physique is signaled by that materials, that we consider that’s the energetic essence of that materials.

 

And so, you possibly are stepping into multidimensional, maybe, matters. However we had been in a position, we consider, to seize the interdimensional essence of shungite and so as to add it to the service. After which to request it to maneuver into EMF sources which are decreasing consciousness. So we talked about this on webinars. that we had been planning this and the best way we work is we do it on ourselves, in our environments, then we develop to our employees. After which we develop it to our clients. However we didn’t…. Folks had been simply speaking about it. And so they mentioned, “Wow, I’m having a horrible time with EMFs. I need to do this as quickly as doable.”

 

So we did a beta group with clients who had been self-selecting. , they had been saying, “I actually am struggling terribly.” And so, we did. And there’s a survey in our EMF part about that. So we did a survey after individuals got here on. So we did this small group the place we added the EMF mitigation, we name it, to the surroundings with the energetic essence of shungite. And we additionally raised the extent of consciousness of the EMF-emitting gadgets. And sooner or later, they develop into constructive. So there’s some overlay of constructive vitality, we don’t fairly perceive the way it works, that’s on prime of this EMF wave.

 

However we at all times need to take a look at. So we had this preliminary survey. And other people had been saying that it was the most effective sleep, you recognize, that they had been in a position to sleep the subsequent night time higher than they’ve in simply years. In different individuals the place simply, “My ache went away.” “My nervousness stage dropped.” “My mind fog lessened.” And a few of that took a while to occur. However we consider that in an surroundings the place EMFs are mitigated, that the physique begins to restore the harm of all of the perturbation that’s occurring to us on daily basis. And for me, personally, it’s nervousness. I really feel like stress in my muscle groups after I’m in an surroundings that’s excessive in EMFs. And if I flip off/activate EMF mitigation with FLFE, then I really feel myself enjoyable. And that’s what lots of people reported.

 

And loads of nervousness with kids too. We get loads of testimonials the place individuals say when the service first got here on, kids grew to become much less anxious, much less irritable, simpler to work with. So we now have that analysis, and we now have some managed blinded research coming via a researcher on the College of Pennsylvania with, once more, individuals which are EMF delicate. And so they gained’t know whether or not they’re on the service or not. It’s going to be a six-month research. So we’re within the means of getting that going.

 

Clayten: We do have some analysis on our web site presently, Katie. We discovered that with the character of the refined vitality of FLFE that you must discover the proper gadgets to measure that affect. Some gadgets simply don’t decide it up. So we discovered {that a} gasoline discharge visualization digicam was one thing that might actually measure the affect.

 

So we did a gasoline discharge visualization digicam research, which is on our web site. We did it with Melissa Waterman, who was the practitioner who labored with Dr. Joe Dispenza, when he was making an attempt to measure the affect of consciousness fields. He may not have referred to as it that. However they might be in an surroundings, and they might do, you recognize, experiments the place they might measure the surroundings with the GDV digicam. After which they would depart the surroundings and focus vitality on it and see what would occur within the surroundings with a GDV digicam.

 

So there have been experiments like that. I’m 99% positive he did that. I’m not the one to talk to it, until I’m 100%. However they did experiments like that the place they had been taking a look at what’s the impact of this educating, and what’s the impact of meditation, and what’s the impact of intent on an surroundings. So we use the identical practitioner, and we now have proof of that on our web site, as effectively. So, I imply, we’re speaking about loads of nonlinear esoteric ideas. And these specific within the 3D bodily world, and we now have, you recognize, proof that pertains to proving that. And we now have extra coming.

 

It seems like we was so enthusiastic about our proof, after which we now have a lot extra coming. It’s like, “Oh, it’s new proof. That’s actually thrilling.” We had this already good proof, proper? However we’re getting increasingly, so we’re trying to have what we name a gold customary in analysis and improvement on this space. And it takes time as a result of it’s a comparatively new space of science and there’s not as many assets there are in different areas.

 

Jeff: So we really feel that subscribers are the most effective or somebody making an attempt to…is the most effective researcher. So we constructed that into it the place there’s a free trial. There’s no bank card. There’s no automated billing. You really must work to develop into a subscriber after the free trial is over.

 

However the individuals have a management panel, they usually can flip EMF mitigation off they usually can flip it again on, flip it on and off as a lot as they need and see how they really feel. As a result of we actually need individuals to attempt it out. And you may flip the service on and off, you are able to do the enhance that we mentioned, to boost the extent. You possibly can decrease the extent. In order that to us is the primary stage of analysis, is, what’s the FLFE neighborhood feeling, and provides them the instruments that they will use to do this.

 

And we discover that, primarily, girls, our viewers, you recognize, our neighborhood is generally girls. It’s proper within the excessive 80%. They don’t inform their household on a regular basis. In order that they actually look to see what’s taking place with their kids and possibly with their husband, their companion. In order that they do blinded research. , it’s a method to see what’s taking place. And among the tales are actually touching.

 

Katie: I like that. And that ties into our earlier dialog about being your individual major healthcare supplier and well being researcher. That’s an important circle that we created there.

 

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And I really feel just like the EMF matter might develop into its personal entire podcast. And hopefully will probably be, as you guys do continued analysis on this, I’d like to circle again on it. However I like that you simply talked about the thought of harmonizing versus simply blocking as a result of I believe, I’ve mentioned this earlier than, like EMFs are a factor that exists in our trendy world. We are able to’t totally cover from them. Even when we lived in the midst of nowhere, they now are in area and directed on the planet, we will’t keep away from them.

 

In order that brings the query of how can we mitigate? Or I like the phrase harmonize much more. After which extra precisely, like, how can we take a look at that transferring ahead? As a result of we’re speaking about very nuanced expertise and easy EMF meters, they could take a look at the presence of these issues, they won’t take a look at the impact on the physique. And I believe that’s the precise essential query as a result of one thing could be current. But when it’s not harmfully affecting the physique or been positively affecting the physique, we’re probably not measuring what we predict we’re measuring. And so, I like that you simply guys are getting very particular in that analysis.

 

And I like that you simply introduced up issues like grounding and the solar, that are fantastic sources of EMFs that I believe usually get discounted. And I’m an enormous fan of telling individuals, “If you get up, go exterior within the daylight barefoot for quarter-hour, and that’s top-of-the-line medicines you will get and it’s free.” And that you simply form of tie in that idea into this expertise, which I do know you’ve talked about.

 

I’ll ensure that that free trial is linked within the present notes for you guys listening. That hyperlink will likely be at wellnessmama.fm. And it’s also possible to be taught. There’s a lot extra data in your web site than we now have time to enter in an hour’s podcast. However like I mentioned, possibly we will circle again and go very, very deep on EMFs, as increasingly analysis develops from you guys.

 

However I do really feel like we had an incredible start line and engaging dialog about this matter. I do know, like I mentioned in the beginning, this can be a new idea for lots of people. It may be laborious to know. You talked about some assets, together with Dr. Hawkins’ work. I’ll hyperlink to that within the present notes as effectively, for anyone who’s not acquainted, and want to do some actually, actually enjoyable studying. And I need to respect your time and the viewers time right this moment. However earlier than we wrap up, I might love to listen to if there are any books which have had a very profound affect on both of your lives and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.

 

Clayton: Possibly, I’ll begin, we’ve been speaking about kinesiology loads. And Dr. Hawkins’ first e book, “Energy vs. Power,” it’s a New York Instances bestseller. I fairly effectively canine eared my copy. The pages are falling out as a result of I’ve had it open. , I opened it up and overlook to shut it. And, in fact, that impacts binding. So that will be one for me.

 

I might say another Hawkins. Dr. Hawkins has a e book I believe it’s referred to as, “Therapeutic and Restoration” or Well being and Therapeutic. I’m drawing a clean proper now. It’s a inexperienced one with the inexperienced stripe. That’s been an enormous one. For any time that I’ve had a well being problem, I’ll go on to that. Effectively, I’ll go over to you, Jeff.

 

Jeff: I believe the current e book that’s had a big affect on me is, “Tremendous Synchronicity” by Dr. Gary E. Schwartz. And its in depth analysis into synchronicities and the way they’re simply so past probability. , they’re simply virtually inconceivable. And what they inform us, and for me, it was that these synchronicities are pointing the best way to some both way of life or connection to another person that may fulfill some intention that I’ve that these synchronicities present up. And that it’s a approach of divinity talking, you might say, or a route within the circulate of the universe. So I used to be actually struck by his scientific rigor that he introduced to essentially finding out synchronicity. In order that was one that basically, actually received me.

 

Katie: That may be a new advice for me. I’ll put that within the present notes. And I additionally simply added it to my Kindle. So, I’m excited to leap into that one. This was such a enjoyable dialog. Like I mentioned, I do know we went into some matters that may actually be new ones for lots of people. And I do know that you simply guys have loads of analysis. If persons are all for studying extra or possibly really feel like they nonetheless don’t perceive how one in every of these items we’ve talked about works, and so I’ll put some extra detailed hyperlinks to all of these. For you guys, for those who’re listening when you’re driving, otherwise you’re exercising, you might discover all these within the present notes.

 

Any parting phrases or recommendation for anybody? It could possibly be associated to this or not. I don’t, if I can get my very own. However one which I’ve in relation to consciousness and our personal expression into the world I like, and any interplay with somebody to ask the query, like how can I like this particular person greatest on this second? However I might love to listen to any parting recommendation that both of you have got.

 

Clayton: I’ll begin with that, possibly to present you a second to suppose, Jeff. I didn’t know you had been a doula. Otherwise you had been concerned in birthing different kids. So I don’t know if that’s a brilliant synchronicity. However that’s a cool synchronicity. And I simply received advised to inform that story. Generally, it’s attention-grabbing to surprise the place our ideas come from, actually, it’s attention-grabbing. We’ve explored that with kinesiology, you recognize, after we consider there’s angelic realms, and whenever you ask divinity for assist, and to bless different individuals, you get helped.

 

And I believe love begets extra love. And I do know that your intention in the direction of individuals you serve, Katie, is excessive, and it’s one of many issues we form of examined after we had been taking a look at speaking to you. And it’s like, “Wow, she actually cares concerning the individuals she talked to.” So it was grateful to be within the firm of different individuals who have good intent. And for some cause, my inside science geek needs to simply depart individuals with a doable experiment, apart from all of the management panel and issues in FLFE. Effectively, really this does relate to the management panel.

 

, there’s an EMF…as a result of your viewers actually is all for that, you might put your arms in your router after which have any person flip the EMF mitigation on and off in your management panel in FLFE, and see in case your physique strikes in the direction of it or away from it, or a wise meter. Sensible meters, I actually discover. I don’t discover routers as a lot, however sensible meters, it’s like, wow, the vitality, after I simply maintain that, it’s prefer it begins to… I really feel like I begin to shrivel. After which after I activate the EMF mitigation within the management panel, then it’s like I can simply breathe and chill out. I really feel like my posture will get higher. It’s a very sensible, you recognize, do-it-yourself instance of one thing you may simply attempt, you recognize. It doesn’t price you something. And we like to experiment. We’re form of geeks, so I simply attempt to go that on.

 

Jeff: Yeah, and speaking about fields of consciousness round us on a regular basis and these peak experiences that we’ve had in our lives, like births. There’s some timeless nature about these experiences the place, I might say, let’s experiment by simply remembering or placing your self again in that delivery, that second, or some peak expertise. And that feeling is simply there. Like, it’s simply right this moment. Like, it’s taking place proper now.

 

And that there’s a timelessness in these fields that we will then use to entry anytime that we have to enhance, you recognize, that we’re in a, you recognize, robust state of affairs the place our frustration or on the finish of our endurance, to name in that peak second, that subject to activate that subject round us. And that useful resource assist ourselves to be extra useful resource in that second. So, I’d simply depart with that.

 

Katie: I adore it. I believe that’s an ideal place to place a pin in it for right this moment. However hopefully future conversations to return. And for all of you listening, positively try the opposite analysis accessible on their web site, in addition to their 14-day free trial. In contrast to most issues on the web, you may really simply attempt it. You don’t must enter your bank card and provides them your first baby or something loopy to attempt it. You possibly can simply do it.

 

And I’m very curious to listen to from all of you listening, particularly on the EMF factor and the self-experimentation. That is, like I mentioned, a subject that we’re all going to take care of in our lifetimes. And I believe there’s nice methods to do it that aren’t simply residing in a cave. So I’m very grateful for you each being right here right this moment and sharing your analysis, which is, I believe, a brand new fascinating realm for lots of people listening and I’m simply studying about myself, so deep gratitude, and thanks to you each.

 

Clayten: Thanks, Katie.

 

Jeff: Thanks, Katie.

 

Katie: And as at all times, because of all of you for listening and sharing your most useful assets, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us all right this moment. We’re so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

 

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