Jimmy Rex on Placing a Cease to Intercourse Trafficking & What to Watch For

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Katie: Hi there, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the tip. And this episode tackles a tricky matter, however I believe a really, crucial one in at the moment’s world. And that’s the matter of intercourse trafficking. I’m right here with Jimmy Rex, who’s an unbelievable one that chooses to reside his life in a means the place not one second goes to waste. And for him, this implies actively being on the bottom, serving to rescue individuals from intercourse trafficking, amongst many, many, many different issues.

 

He’s at the moment, for example, an lively actual property agent with probably the most sought out teaching applications within the nation about actual property. And he’s additionally a highly regarded speaker. He has his personal podcast known as “The Jimmy Rex Present” that exhibits extraordinary individuals, residing extraordinary lives. And he additionally spends time making an attempt to make a distinction on this planet, together with as an undercover operative for numerous organizations that rescue individuals from intercourse trafficking, together with quite a few very harmful journeys to different international locations to save lots of younger youngsters and youngsters.

 

And we discuss this at the moment, how he’s labored on 12 totally different operations to rescue individuals, how this can be a widespread drawback in lots of U.S. cities and worldwide, and the way usually, after they land in a brand new place, they’re able to discover individuals being trafficked inside simply a few hours. Why intercourse trafficking doesn’t at all times seem like you suppose it will, and what to observe for. Why these organizations spend six occasions as a lot on aftercare than rescues, and the way they help individuals after they’re rescued. And issues like learn how to train your youngsters to pay attention to the chance, what to look out for in your individual youngsters and of their buddies, necessary boundaries to assist your youngsters put in place so they are going to be much less in danger, tech pointers to pay attention to. How, particularly youngsters, are focused by means of know-how and social media. Some journey ideas associated to staying secure, particularly in different international locations. Vital conversations to have along with your youngsters round this matter, and steps we will all take to assist this drawback worldwide, in addition to some actually fascinating aspect tangents about Jimmy and what he does on this planet. So like I mentioned, robust matter, however I believe an necessary one. And I believe that you’ll study quite a bit. I do know I did and didn’t notice fairly how widespread and horrific this drawback is. So on that observe, let’s be part of Jimmy.

 

Katie: Jimmy, welcome. Thanks for being right here.

 

Jimmy: Hey, I admire you having me on, thanks.

 

Katie: Nicely, I’m excited to speak at the moment a few matter that I believe lots of people possibly desire not to consider, however one which I believe is admittedly, actually necessary. And that’s the matter of childhood intercourse trafficking. And I do know that’s an intense one. And we’re gonna go a whole lot of totally different instructions with this. However at the start, I’d love to listen to how you bought into this work within the first place.

 

Jimmy: Yeah, so our mutual good friend, Paul Hutchinson. I used to be at a networking assembly about six years in the past and I heard him talking. He had simply acquired again from doing his first undercover operation that he had gone on. And as I used to be listening to him inform the story, it simply touched me in a means that I knew I needed to be part of this. I knew this was going to be one thing I used to be gonna be concerned with for the remainder of my life. And so, I simply made it a mission of mine to by some means be capable to create sufficient worth to be part of this group that was going and doing this. And, you realize, six, eight months later, I discovered myself on my first op. And since then, I’ve been in a position to be on 12 totally different operations. However I actually simply knew once I heard it, I needed to do one thing about it. And so simply made certain that I might do all the things I might to supply worth.

 

Katie: And I do know this can be a factor that individuals right here could also be talked about within the media or see occasional mainstream information references to. However I really feel prefer it, hopefully, isn’t near house for lots of people so usually it’s a straightforward factor to form of ignore, however are you able to discuss how large of an issue that is worldwide and why this was so necessary to you?

 

Jimmy: Yeah, I imply, I don’t know precise numbers or something like that, however I can let you know this, anytime we went to a brand new metropolis, if we went searching for it, more often than not inside 45 minutes to an hour, we might discover individuals keen to promote us youngsters for intercourse once we have been undercover. And in order that tells you, you realize, in lots of of those cities, I’ve been to earlier than on trip and by no means crossed my thoughts, by no means thought twice about it. However the second we went searching for it, it was that straightforward to seek out. And so, I do know that in most locations across the nation, it’s not out within the open, it’s not one thing you’d ever see or take into consideration, nevertheless it’s happening on a regular basis.

 

Katie: So actually, this can be a factor that would very a lot be taking place and certain is in a lot of our personal communities?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I imply, it was actually, I imply, inside a few hours, for certain, we might discover individuals keen to promote as youngsters that have been already doing it.

 

Katie: Wow. And is that…? I do know within the analysis I’ve carried out, a whole lot of that is taking place technologically now and the elevated entry to know-how is making this occur. And there are methods that that’s taking place form of underground, even on-line, is that what you guys are seeing as nicely?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. We didn’t actually do a lot with the net stuff, however I imply, when you consider, you realize, so as to, A, visitors a child, or to be the particular person on the opposite finish of that, going to search for youngsters to have intercourse with, you need to have entry to youngsters. And so up to now, a whole lot of occasions, all that, you realize, you’d hear about was some member of the family or possibly a trainer or one thing like that, any person that was near these youngsters. Nicely now, due to the web, we all know there’s simply much more accessibility for these individuals trying to do these issues. And to allow them to each visitors and discover youngsters simpler by means of the web. And so, clearly, it’s turn out to be a really prevalent place the place that occurs.

 

Katie: So while you say you’ve gone on 12 totally different operations, what does that seem like? Are you guys in a position to really rescue a few of the youngsters from these conditions?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So I’ve been on 12 ops that have been concerned with rescuing youngsters. So we go right down to totally different areas the place we all know one thing’s happening, or we’ve been tipped off that there could be an issue. And we might go down undercover. And our job is to enter the worst locations in these cities and discover the worst individuals and attempt to discover these which might be trafficking youngsters. And so we’re utilizing, you realize, all of our skills to mainly attempt to discover the youngsters and the individuals keen to promote us the youngsters.

 

And so forth all 12 of these ops, a couple of of them, you realize, didn’t find yourself getting the youngsters. One thing occurred, any person acquired tipped off, or no matter it might need been, however the majority of them went very profitable. And general, I believe I’ve been in a position to be part of now rescuing over 150 youngsters and having over 45, 50 guys and ladies arrested. And so, yeah, we might actually simply go undercover, we might go into these cities. We’d fly in and begin doing our factor that we do so as to discover them. And like I mentioned, generally it will take us a couple of days to form of get all of it arrange, generally it’d be very fast, however that’s form of what it seemed like.

 

Katie: And I’ll admit, it’s considerably unfathomable to me that that is taking place and particularly on such a big scale. Like, I really can’t even comprehend once I learn these stats. Are these like mother and father and caregivers which might be taking part on this, are these youngsters being kidnapped, or what are you guys normally discovering?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So we see a little bit little bit of all the things. So it doesn’t normally seem like you’d suppose. So we’ve seen youngsters behind cages and bars. That’s, in Haiti, that was, you realize, the fact of the scenario one time. That’s not normally what you see although. So sometimes, what’s happening is a whole lot of these youngsters are trafficked both by any person they know, by a member of the family, by a good friend, by a trainer. I’ll offer you one instance. We have been in a metropolis in Latin America, and it was a seventh or eighth-grade faculty trainer.

 

She used her place to lure these ladies that she was instructing. For instance, so she would inform them, “Hey, you realize, I’ve acquired an additional $20 for those who’ll go to this get together. We’re gonna have a celebration. It needs to be enjoyable.” Lure them into the get together. Subsequent factor they know, they’re being raped. And the trainer tells them, “In the event you inform anyone, inform your mother and father, then I’m gonna inform them that you simply went and had intercourse with these males. After which we’ll inform all people what you’ve carried out.” After which mainly it’s a disgrace factor.

 

After which they, you realize… And we all know this as a result of a few of the occasions once we have been capable of finding these traffickers, we might be capable to faucet their telephones. And the Mexican police or the Latin police, whoever we have been working with, would pay attention to the conversations. And these ladies could be begging to not must go, however they might go nonetheless. And so a whole lot of them have been even residing at house and being trafficked out of their very own home. A variety of them, you bought a neighbor or a member of the family or any person like that’s doing it.

 

A variety of occasions, the ladies or the ladies, you realize, they weren’t even… generally they didn’t even know the depth of the how unhealthy it was, what was taking place to them. They knew that, you realize, they have been being trafficked out, however they didn’t totally perceive. They have been too younger to essentially comprehend what was happening. So you actually see a little bit little bit of all the things, however normally, it’s any person in these sorts of conditions. A variety of occasions, runaways or ladies that, you realize, had a bother in the home, they might go reside with a member of the family or a good friend, and subsequent factor you realize, they’re residing with the traffickers or no matter which may seem like. And so, we noticed all of that.

 

One of many first issues that we do, anytime we’re gonna go right into a metropolis, a brand new metropolis, and go undercover, we’ve to verify first that they’ve all of the aftercare arrange in order that if we do a rescue and we discover these younger ladies, that they’ve aftercare set as much as assist them or to handle them. And so we wouldn’t even ever go do an op with out that setup. And a part of the explanation for that’s if we rescue the ladies and there’s no aftercare, there’s no means to assist them, it’s really worse for them a whole lot of occasions. And so, you realize, we work along with these organizations.

 

And so, one of many first questions that they at all times work out, or one of many first issues they work out is, “Okay. Was this particular person residing at house? Had been they lacking? In the event that they have been lacking, have been they reported lacking?” As a result of that’s normally an indication whether or not the mother and father have been concerned or not. And so, you realize, we actually did a whole lot of work on the again finish to be sure that was all taken care of. That’s a very large a part of it’s simply to be sure that their scenario is secure at house. And if not, they wouldn’t return to that scenario.

 

Katie: That was gonna be my follow-up query is what does aftercare seem like? As a result of I can solely think about that there’s in all probability quite a bit that wants to enter this from the psychological well being aspect, from the bodily well being aspect to the logistical aspect of constructing certain they’ve a secure place to be after. What all goes into that?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. Similar to you simply mentioned, all of that, you realize, a whole lot of therapists, a whole lot of caretakers, lots of people. After which additionally determining what the ladies wished with their lives. Attempting to attach them to the appropriate individuals that would assist them in the event that they wished to go to high school, in the event that they wished to have a sure profession. Somebody wished to, you realize, bake or get into hair chopping or no matter that could be. Give them one thing the place they’d an opportunity to study and develop and never have to return to a foul scenario.

 

However that’s… Yeah, aftercare concerned all of the above. And by the point, you realize, I labored quite a bit with a gaggle known as… nicely, I labored with a whole lot of totally different teams, however Baby Liberation Basis and Operation Underground Railroad. I do know, you realize, for these organizations, they spend much more cash. I heard as soon as, I can’t confirm this, however I heard one time they spend six occasions extra money per youngster on aftercare that they do on the precise rescues themselves.

 

Katie: Wow. Nicely, that appears tremendous, tremendous necessary. What sort of age vary do you sometimes see when these persons are rescued? I’m a little bit scared to ask, however I’d assume it’s principally like youngsters and younger adults, or do you see form of throughout the board?

 

Jimmy: Often 12 to 14, 15 is form of what most of them are. You understand, I believe the youngest I noticed was 12. I believe the oldest that we… We rescued some that weren’t underage, however you realize, nonetheless being exploited or no matter. However the majority have been that 12 to 17, 12 to 16 vary.

 

Katie: And is there a course of for coping with the people who find themselves doing the trafficking? Like, are there in these totally different international locations and particularly within the U.S., like, is there really a technique of them being delivered to justice or what does that seem like?

 

Jimmy: Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we by no means labored within the U.S. The U.S. has, you realize, a whole lot of enforcement businesses. I do know there’s some organizations that work along with these regulation enforcement businesses. However you gotta bear in mind, a whole lot of these international locations we go to, they don’t have the cash or the means to do it. And they also have reached out to us to assist them. They desperately need our assist. You understand, for instance, after I did a few ops in Mexico, they have been so grateful to us that they ended up awarding me and my group of buddies that have been along with me, you realize, diplomat standing and a few actually cool awards and issues like that as a result of they’re so grateful. As a result of, you realize, one of many adverse belongings you hear about that is like, “Oh, the People simply wanna go G.I. Joe or no matter.” And it’s actually not true in any respect. They have been so grateful to have us there to have the ability to work with them.

 

And what the People are in a position to do is a lot more practical as a result of we seem like the individuals which might be taking place there for the trafficking within the first place. And so we’re in a position to simply get much more info. I bear in mind one op we did, you realize, it took us about 24 hours. The top of the federal police in that nation mentioned, “You guys have gotten us extra info in 24 hours than we gotten in 14 months.” We had all their names, their social medias, their cellphone numbers, you realize, all the things we wanted for these guys. And so for us, the chance to go down there and try this, it’s simply rather more efficient, rather more environment friendly for them. However yeah, it’s a course of of constructing certain you’re working along with every authority on each single op. You’re working very carefully hand in hand.

 

Katie: And I really feel like from right here, there’s form of a two-prong method I wanna go into. The primary being, for all of the mother and father listening, most individuals listening are mother and father, what can we pay attention to, indicators to search for, hopefully not in our personal youngsters for anybody listening, however in possibly different youngsters that we’re interacting with, our children’ buddies, simply usually, that may be form of warning indicators for issues like abuse and kidnapping and intercourse trafficking?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I believe it’s actually necessary to show your youngsters in the event that they’re uncomfortable with one thing, to let you realize. I do know once I was a child, I had like a bizarre uncle and nothing ever occurred, however I simply felt uncomfortable with him. He at all times wished to kiss me on the lips like when he was saying hello and bye, and I used to be in a position to get out of it. However, you realize, I bear in mind my mother and father being like, “Be good or no matter.” And it’s like, no, don’t. Like, for those who really feel uncomfortable with one thing, that’s an indication that possibly it’s best to steer clear of that particular person. Or when you’ve got, like, a neighbor that’s a little bit bit creepy, there’s in all probability one thing to that. So don’t…

 

I bear in mind simply as a child, you realize, mother and father, a whole lot of occasions, they don’t need their youngsters to return off impolite, however I believe it’s necessary to let your youngsters know for those who don’t wanna speak to any person otherwise you don’t wanna be good to any person that’s an grownup, that’s good. Like, let me know and also you don’t must. You don’t must be pleasant to all people, even when it’s your grandparent or your uncle or whoever it could be. I believe that’s one necessary factor for fogeys. After which simply search for issues. Like, it’s not okay for fogeys to be buddies with youngsters. It’s not okay for fogeys to be overly pleasant with youngsters. Or, sorry, strangers, you realize. To be… So if any person’s making an attempt to love… Often, in the event that they’re gonna do one thing, nonetheless to this present day, I believe more often than not, the traffickers know the youngsters. And so take note of that.

 

If the trainer is contacting the coed outdoors of church or faculty, in all probability not okay. If there’s issues that they need them to maintain from you as a guardian, not okay. And so I believe it’s necessary to simply have open communication along with your youngsters and simply allow them to know, “Hey, I’m by no means gonna get mad at you. But when there’s ever an grownup wanting to satisfy up or speak or no matter, I simply wanna know what’s happening and I’ll make sure that, you realize, to be part of it. Simply have a really open dialogue along with your youngsters. As a result of normally it appears to be like like an grownup that’s simply making an attempt to be good they usually’ll make you appear to be you’re the loopy one.

 

However you realize, I believe youngsters, particularly if youngsters are simply uncomfortable round any person, take note of their vitality. You probably have a neighbor that the child’s at all times hiding from or doesn’t wanna speak to or form of clamps up round, that could be an indication that, you realize, they don’t wanna be round that neighbor or one thing could be happening there. And so I believe that’s a very powerful factor so far as with individuals you realize. So far as individuals you don’t know, I believe, once more, simply instructing your youngsters to have the ability to say, you realize, to have the ability to say no, to yell in the event that they’re in bother, to watch out the place they’re going, to simply concentrate, you realize, all the principle issues that you’d already inform your child as a guardian.

 

Katie: Yeah. And I believe that boundary one, particularly round bodily contact is admittedly, actually necessary. To simply echo what you mentioned of even at a younger age, you realize, not forcing our children to hug a relative in the event that they don’t wish to. And train them from the second that they perceive that your physique is yours to make selections about, interval. And I help your selections about that. In the event you don’t wanna…you’ll not be compelled to hug or kiss any relative, together with me. Like, that is your physique, your autonomy, and I’m your largest supporter in that.

 

And that’s additionally actually nice recommendation about simply watching grownup relationships and ensuring we’re part of them with different adults outdoors the household. As a result of definitely, like, after all, there will be mentorship conditions or lecturers who’re nice with the youngsters, however there’s no cause mother and father can’t be concerned in these relationships as nicely.

 

What concerning the social media aspect? As a result of that is an space that once I was at these ages, didn’t exist. So this was one thing I didn’t must navigate as an adolescent. And now, as mother and father, we’re navigating with our children fairly often from a youthful age. And I’ve learn a minimum of that fairly a little bit of the focusing on that occurs goes on by means of social media or by means of on-line channels.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So, that is a kind of issues that folks won’t be very conscious of in any respect, however it is vitally straightforward to contact youngsters or teenage youngsters by means of social media apps for these individuals. So I’ll offer you an instance. We have been on trip undercover. Nicely, I ought to say, our group was undercover. There was, with us, one of many guys that got here down undercover, his spouse and cousin got here to be on trip within the metropolis. So earlier than the ops began, they have been hanging out. Nicely, one of many cousin was on her social media on Fb, I consider, or Instagram.

 

And she or he had simply posted that she was on this specific seashore metropolis hanging out and acquired contacted by this man on there that mentioned, “Oh. Hey, we’ve this get together happening. It’s on the membership, this, this. You guys ought to come.” Nicely, we noticed it later and it was one of many traffickers that we have been working with undercover in that metropolis had contacted her to return to this get together. I imply, she was, I believe 19 or 20, so she wasn’t underage, however nonetheless, he didn’t know that. And who is aware of if that might’ve became a trafficking scenario. So a whole lot of occasions, individuals will submit their photos they usually’ll put the landmark that they’re by.

 

Nicely, these traffickers can search by a landmark, they’ll search by metropolis. They’ll see, you realize, the place these persons are after which they contact them in real-time and say, “Oh. Hey, we acquired this get together,” or, “Hey, we acquired this occasion happening.” And so I simply suppose it’s necessary that they turn out to be conscious. As a result of a whole lot of occasions, particularly teenage youngsters and teenage ladies, they could be happening a trip they usually harmlessly are posting about the place they’re at in real-time and displaying that and it simply form of opens that door. Particularly for those who’re in another country, what I like to recommend to individuals to do is submit all the things three or 4 days later. So wait until you allow the place you’re at.

 

In the event you wanna do a video in your Instagram story, as an alternative of posting that story in real-time, you realize, wait three days, make the video, after which submit all the things a couple of days later. I do know that’s not as enjoyable as doing it in real-time, however particularly in a foreign country, I simply suppose that’s actually necessary to not let individuals know the place you’re at. A variety of occasions, these are small cities, they’re seashore cities, you realize, you’re in some Southeast Asia place or one thing or, you realize, Latin nation, or South America, or wherever it could be. As a result of it’s a very actual factor. And in addition, it simply opens the door even for individuals…

 

You understand, and fogeys as nicely, by the best way. In the event you’re posting and also you’re means in another country otherwise you’re very far-off from house and you’ve got teenage youngsters at house, nicely, in all probability not a good suggestion to submit in real-time both as a result of now if anyone’s been watching you and your youngsters, they know you guys are away, they might possibly attempt to make their transfer in your child at the moment when you’re out. And so I believe it’s actually necessary to simply pay attention to that. I do know we wanna present the world all the things we’re doing, however when you’ve got, you realize, teenage youngsters, particularly your youthful youngsters, I simply suppose it’s good time to place, you realize, put some area in between the place you might be in order that no person can…

 

I’ve an in depth household that I’m excellent buddies with known as the Bucket Listing Household. And also you might need heard of them earlier than. I’ve gone on a number of journeys with them, with Garrett and Jess and their household. They usually at all times wait three or 4 or 5 days to submit from the place they really are so individuals don’t know the place they’re at. They’ll’t come and, you realize, who is aware of what they could attempt to do or no matter. And so, I realized that from Garrett firsthand. However you realize, it’s a reasonably good thought to simply submit a couple of days later.

 

Katie: Yeah. That’s such a easy tip, however such an necessary one. And it’s one I’ve inadvertently carried out simply due to having form of a web-based platform. I’d find yourself assembly up with individuals if I posted the place I really was, which was really nice, as a result of I like assembly up with my readers, nevertheless it made me notice like, wow, it’s really easy for individuals to determine and put the items collectively and there’s this chance of individuals being in the identical place. However once we consider it by means of this lens, particularly for teenagers, that could be a easy tip. It makes a complete lot of sense. I do know youngsters are so used to posting all the things and sharing their entire life on social media, however that’s such an necessary tip.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I imply, I do the identical factor. After I go, you realize, I am going to a whole lot of sporting occasions, and I submit that in real-time. I don’t have little youngsters at house both and stuff like that so it’s not as large of a deal. However yeah, it’s simply a kind of little issues. Additionally, simply usually, in social media, take note of who your youngsters are speaking with. In the event that they’re youngsters, in the event that they’re on the apps, I believe it’s simply necessary to have a very good relationship with them and never get mad at them for those who ever see them speaking to adults as a result of they’re gonna conceal it from you in that case. And so I believe for those who can actually come from a spot of understanding and curiosity and love with them, and simply allow them to know like, “Hey, I simply wanna just remember to are protected.”

 

I simply inform them, “I simply wanna be sure to’re protected. You by no means know. I’ll by no means get mad at you, but when you realize adults ever attain out to you, I’d like to know.” I used to be, you realize, speaking to any person fairly just lately and he or she had talked about, she’s older now, however she had talked about when she was 16 and 17, she had 37 to 39-year-old guys, you realize, that she was happening dates with as a 16-year-old, 15-year-old. And also you’re like, “Geez, the place have been the mother and father on this?” You understand? Nevertheless it’s actually necessary to know who your youngsters are speaking to. And so I simply suppose the extra you possibly can create that comfortability with them the place they’re gonna be sincere and open with you and also you don’t get mad at them for it, I believe you’re gonna be capable to present an area the place they’ll really share it with you.

 

Katie: Yeah. And the significance of simply having these open conversations. And like I mentioned, social media didn’t exist once I was an adolescent, however I had guys in particular person who’re a lot, a lot, a lot older attempt to make contact and speak to me. And like that felt bizarre on the time. And, like, I didn’t have a very good context essentially for, like, what do I do about this? And so I believe having these conversations along with your youngsters actually early and ensuring, such as you mentioned, that they hear time and again, like, “I’ll by no means be mad at you. I’ll at all times be your advocate. And these are necessary. Even for those who simply have a suspicion or an inkling or one thing simply feels bizarre, we will discuss it, something, and you’ll not ever get in bother for that.” Simply to create kinda that security internet.

 

And I believe the opposite a part of this, so like I believe the mother and father being conscious with our personal youngsters is tremendous, tremendous necessary. However such as you’ve defined, this can be a worldwide drawback, sadly. It appears to be an growing drawback nonetheless in at the moment’s society. And I do know, like, for example, me as a mother of six youngsters, I can’t go do sting operations very simply in different international locations, however what are some ways in which we will get entangled and assist help the schooling, help the battle towards this for different individuals’s youngsters and in different places?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. You understand, I believe probably the most necessary issues you are able to do is to begin with your individual self, your loved ones, the individuals that you simply affect. Paul at all times has this saying. He says, “Jimmy, I’m gonna train you a lesson concerning the circle of affect.” He says, “If it’s inside the circle that you could affect it, then you’ve gotten the appropriate to fret about it. If it’s not inside that circle, you’ve gotten two selections. You both don’t fear about it otherwise you make a much bigger circle with the intention to affect extra and you may finally do one thing about it.”

 

So so far as, like, yeah, you’re not gonna be capable to go undercover and do these form of issues. What you are able to do is to assist help the organizations like Baby Liberation Basis that, you realize, goes and does this sort of stuff. You possibly can help them by sharing their tales, by sharing their social medias, by sharing their posts, liking it, commenting it, simply letting the phrase get on the market. Additionally what you’re doing proper now, proper? Doing this podcast. And one of many issues that, you realize, I’m cautious to share once I inform individuals learn how to share that is you don’t wanna share it in a means that’s unfaithful or loopy.

 

You’ll discover I by no means give stats or numbers I don’t know. I don’t wanna throw issues on the market. As a result of what I believe what occurred with this motion a little bit bit during the last 12 months or two is the individuals which might be actually evil, I believe that they tried to lump on this challenge with QAnon and a few of these different loopy theories which might be on the market. And so what it did is it form of minimized all of it, proper? It was like, “Oh, it’s only a bunch of loopy individuals.” Nevertheless it’s like, “No. I’ve seen firsthand. I do know the issue that’s on the market. I don’t know the extent to precisely how big it’s, nevertheless it’s large and it’s an issue.”

 

However as a result of so many individuals began sounding loopy with the best way they shared it and sharing numbers and stats that possibly weren’t true, they have been in a position to lump it in and simply be like, “Yeah, that’s all simply a part of the loopy proper wing conspiracy.” And so I’m very cautious to not share issues that aren’t true. I wanna be sure that individuals know this can be a actual factor. That is taking place. It doesn’t imply that Tom Hanks is consuming youngsters. It implies that, you realize, that there’s a pedophile. And we all know Ghislaine Maxwell trial happening proper now. It is a actual factor. It’s been taking place.

 

However cautious the way you share it. I share it in a means the place it’s like, “Look, that is in all probability taking place proper in your yard.” It doesn’t matter if the elites of the world are doing it within the sense that that’s not essentially what you could be sharing. What you could be sharing is, like, look, straight up on the bottom, how can I be affecting my neighborhood, my metropolis, and form of fear concerning the issues you possibly can really affect? That’s one of the best factor I’m making an attempt to get out of that is you’re not gonna be capable to do something if the world leaders are all doing this.

 

Like, there’s not a lot you are able to do or say about that. What you may do is, in your neighborhood, assist educate individuals, assist individuals see the issue that’s on the market. After which simply assist them be, you realize, once more, be good neighbors. The strongest neighborhoods the place this isn’t taking place is the place there may be robust neighborhoods, they’re serving to one another, they care about one another. They’re keen to speak to one another. And so, I believe that to me is one of the best ways to do it. After which, clearly, once more, simply spreading the attention and issues like that.

 

Katie: And I’ll make sure that, I do know that there are additionally many on-line assets, together with the organizations you talked about. I’ll make sure that these are linked to the present notes at wellnessmama.fm. so that you guys can learn and discover a few of these precise details to share and know what to observe for and in your individual neighborhood. I additionally totally agree with you that having robust communities in our native space is part of the answer. And in addition, I’ve talked about it in so many podcast episodes, it’s necessary for well being, it’s necessary for psychological well being, it’s necessary for longevity.

 

Like, there’s a cause blue zones have robust communities and that’s as a result of they’re very important to us as human animals. However that is additionally simply one other instance of why that’s so necessary. And particularly for our children. I do know that is an space that’s been robust for lots of people the final couple of years because the neighborhood’s been harder with a whole lot of the restrictions which have gone on, however one which’s very, crucial to nurture.

 

And so I’ll make sure that all these hyperlinks are included within the present notes. I’d like to additionally speak a little bit bit extra about you personally so individuals can perceive the work that you simply’re doing and likewise why that is, you realize, so necessary to you and the way you’re employed to enhance the world in a complete lot of various areas. And I’ve some notes in my present notes, one being, for those who have been gonna give a TED Speak, it will be about form of the concept of your e book, which is “You Finish Up The place You’re Heading.” So I’d love to listen to you discuss that a little bit bit as a result of I believe that is additionally actually related to folks.

 

Jimmy: Yeah, yeah. So a number of years in the past, once more, I form of had this second the place I used to be making an attempt to determine what my life was gonna be about, what the aim of my life was going to be. And I felt very strongly finally about my goal, and it’s to assist individuals reside a unprecedented life, to unfold love and goodness by means of having a playful spirit, and displaying how to do this. And so one of many issues that… I’ll let you know a fast story too. The hat that I’m carrying, it’s a emblem for my firm. It’s known as “We Are The They.”

 

And the way that happened is I got here again from one among these ops. It was really probably the most harmful ones we’d ever been on. And, you realize, I used to be telling my girlfriend on the time, she picked me up on the airport, and we have been speaking all concerning the op and the way scary it was and the way cool it was as a result of we acquired the rescue and we took these horrible guys down. And I’m telling her all about it and he or she pulls over and he or she goes, “Hey, I gotta be sincere. I don’t need you to go do that anymore.” And I used to be like, “What do you imply? I simply rescued these youngsters. Like, that is my life’s goal right here. You understand, it’s gonna be an enormous a part of it.”

 

And she or he says, “Nicely, I do know, nevertheless it’s simply such a foul setting.”It’s simply actually scary. It’s harmful.” And she or he mentioned, “Why can’t they only go do it?” And with out pondering, I mentioned, “Nicely, there is no such thing as a they, we’re the they.” And as quickly as I mentioned it, I used to be like ‘Oh, shit, that’s…” And, you realize, and I knew… And in order that turned the mannequin for my life is “We’re the they.” And in order that, you realize, once more, along with the e book, I simply attempt to assist individuals. I coach males learn how to turn out to be one of the best model of themselves. It’s a gaggle known as “We Are The They.”

 

And mainly, we simply, by means of being males of integrity, by means of being sincere about what, you realize, I seen through the years, the individuals that might attain out to me probably the most, they wished neighborhood they usually wished a secure place the place they might open up and have individuals love them by means of progress and making an attempt to turn out to be one of the best model of themselves. And in order that’s the place I began that. The e book basically follows what known as the hero’s journey, which is the trail that all of us go on.

 

And I believe it’s necessary in life to keep in mind that attending to the place we’re making an attempt to get, it’s not a easy path. It’s not a straightforward path. However that journey, that hero’s journey that we go on. And mainly, for those who’ve by no means considered what you need your life to seem like, you’re simply gonna find yourself the place you’re heading. You’re simply gonna go wherever the wind form of takes you. No matter particular person desires you to be part of their story, they’ll add you in as a chunk. And normally, you’ll spend your life constructing their dream or their factor.

 

And so if you realize what you need, for those who get crystal clear on the place you’re making an attempt to go and what you’re making an attempt to do… You understand, you requested me on the very starting of this, how did you get into this? And finally, it’s as straightforward as I simply determined I used to be going to do that. I made that call. I had a why big after which I found out learn how to make that occur. And in order that’s that means with all the things in life. I simply form of, you realize, by means of the e book and thru my teaching program, encourage individuals to determine precisely what they need in life after which go about determining why that’s what they need after which determining learn how to go about doing it.

 

Katie: Yeah. I believe that’s so necessary. I haven’t had an opportunity to learn it but, however I’m undoubtedly going to take a look at your e book. I even have a observe in my present notes that you’ve an honorary doctorate diploma from 13 universities in Mexico. And I really feel like I would like to listen to extra about this.

 

Jimmy: Yeah, that was a part of… So we did a whole lot of these ops early on. We have been in Mexico. We have been in a position to rescue a whole lot of youngsters down there they usually have been so grateful to us for doing this. Like I mentioned, they didn’t have the power, the means to do it. And so, a number of years in the past, they flew up, in all probability 30, 35 officers from Mexico flew up, and we did a particular ceremony on the Capitol constructing right here in Utah with the Legal professional Normal of Utah. They gave us honorary doctorate levels.

 

So I’ve this group of buddies from highschool. There’s eight of us which might be all greatest buddies. And two of them turned docs. One’s an orthopedist surgeon and one’s a plastic surgeon. And I made the joke to them. I mentioned, “Gosh, guys, who would’ve ever thought that three of us would turn out to be docs, you realize?” They usually didn’t suppose that was very humorous since they put 15 years of faculty into it. Nevertheless it was simply form of an honor that we acquired to have, simply one thing form of cool and one thing form of fascinating I put in my bio.

 

Katie: I even have a observe that you simply’ve been to 84 international locations. And I’d love to listen to only a few of the highest ones that you’d suggest probably the most.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So in actual fact, what occurred, I’ll inform the story of why I began doing that. So in 2014, I had a buddy, his title was Eric Hill. And he had a aim, he was gonna go to each single nation within the shortest period of time ever. And he’d gotten to I believe over 50 of them in lower than 6 or 7 months. And he was doing this international odyssey. And he ended up passing away. He was paragliding and had an accident and died. And I bear in mind there was this, form of, this hashtag that went round, #livelikeEric.

 

And what that meant to me was this man was actually residing his life. He was doing all these wonderful issues and going and simply residing his life. And I remembered I hadn’t been in another country in years. I’d been simply working my butt off on a regular basis. And I mentioned to myself, I mentioned, you realize, “If I died tomorrow, like, the tragedy that that might be.” And so I simply made it a aim. I simply mentioned, “I’m simply gonna go see the world.” And so I began touring, went on a number of journeys with buddies, with teams of buddies, with, you realize, any person I used to be relationship, after which went on a number of on my own too.

 

And what I found is simply this world, when you determine, like, how lovely the world is, while you actually can admire the world for all the things it’s, you’ve gotten a a lot stronger need to reserve it, a a lot stronger need to do good on this planet, I believe. And so for me, I actually encourage all people, drop a whole lot of prejudices and also you’re in a position to actually see individuals and perceive that we’re all a part of the identical human household. However to choose a couple of, I’d say, you realize, Eire and Scotland and Iceland are wonderful. Everybody of their lives ought to do an African safari.

 

You understand, I bear in mind sleeping out in the midst of the bush in Zimbabwe and waking up there’s lions 200-feet away and there’s monkeys swinging within the bushes above us. And a honey badger actually crawled proper as much as my leg. And I bear in mind sitting on this berm overlooking this sort of this hill and into form of like a marsh and there was hippos and within the distance, there’s giraffes and rhinos. And it’s simply probably the most surreal factor that… You begin to go go to all these individuals. What actually is cool goes and visiting the native individuals in all these locations, you realize? And also you begin to simply actually have a love for humanity. It actually drops any prejudices you’ve gotten.

 

I do know I went a few years in the past to Egypt with a good friend of mine. And he grew up there and his household nonetheless lives there. And we spent a couple of days with them after we went and noticed the pyramids and all that. And this household was, you realize, a Muslim household. And I’m in Utah. We don’t have very many minorities, simply being sincere with you. You form of worry what you don’t know and so that you’re at all times just a bit bit afraid of these individuals. And so going over there although and feeling their like to me. They usually introduced me into their properties and fed us and probably the most wonderful meals and simply the best way they handled us and honored us was actually particular.

 

And I noticed, you realize, all these belongings you’re afraid of in life, when you get close to them, you now not are. And, you realize, Brené Brown talks about this on a regular basis, leaning into individuals. Similar factor with animals. In reality, I’m an enormous shark man. I like sharks. I like to swim with sharks. I’ve swum with 15 totally different species of sharks, together with bull sharks, tiger sharks, all this and not using a cage. And when you’ve gotten a tiger shark coming at you, proper? I used to be in the midst of the Atlantic Ocean. It’s 15-feet lengthy. It’s this large… It appears to be like like a miniature bus coming at you, however you are feeling its vitality towards you. And as an alternative of being afraid, you’re simply in amazement and marvel.

 

This factor lives right here on this physique of water and it’s developing and it’s simply curious, and it’s you and also you’re it. There’s no cage. It’s simply this trade of vitality and love and it actually modifications your view in direction of most issues. And so, a part of what I train, you realize, the lads in my teaching program is we go do scary issues as a result of we’ve these irrational fears from what we’re informed to consider from society. You understand, the information media wants you to be in worry in order that they’ll, you realize, promote. I imply, you realize, worry sells and all these various things. And so what we attempt to do is by touring and by going and experiencing all this, it’s such an exquisite world on the market. And I believe that’s the great thing about touring.

 

Katie: I agree with you. I’ve thought with my very own youngsters is, like, I do know I can look again and notice a few of the harder occasions of my life helped me turn out to be the particular person I’m at the moment. And but I don’t wanna deliberately create a tough life for my youngsters. And journey’s form of the proper resolution as a result of there’s a whole lot of inherent issue that comes together with journey. And such as you mentioned, you achieve a complete new perspective on humanity and on the world and the way we’re all a lot extra related and comparable than we regularly develop up once we develop up in a homogenous space. And so journey’s undoubtedly a core worth for us as nicely. Though you’ve gotten traveled to many, many extra locations, which is superior and galvanizing.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. You do a whole lot of problem-solving while you journey, to your level, you realize, is making an attempt to determine issues out on the go and you may’t converse the language and also you gotta work out stuff and also you simply do. You simply find yourself figuring it out. However I like that concept as a guardian to, you realize, assist your youngsters develop.

 

Katie: After which lastly, on my notes, I’ve a observe that you simply’re the President of the Chris Farley Fan Membership. And I really feel like that wants some clarification as nicely.

 

Jimmy: Yeah. So me and my buddies, once we have been in highschool, I used to be a Sophomore in highschool when Chris Farley handed away, and we have been simply such large followers. I imply, I wished to be Chris Farley. Most guys, you realize, most children in all probability wished to be an athlete or wished to be one of many film stars that was getting all the ladies. I wished to be Chris Farley. I simply thought he was one of the best ever. And so me and my buddies, the day he handed away, which is December 18th, really it was simply yesterday, was two days in the past, sorry, it was Chris Farley Day. December 18th was the day he handed away. So we might get collectively yearly and watch all his films.

 

After which one 12 months… You understand, I used to be at all times simply Googling Chris Farley wanting into issues. And I bear in mind one 12 months, again in possibly 2002 or 2003, I Googled Chris Farley and there was a basis arrange by his brother, Tom, the place they have been elevating cash to assist, you realize, maintain youngsters off medication. So I reached out to him and we began a relationship. After which a few 12 months later, two years later, Chris Farley acquired a star on Hollywood and we acquired invited out to return to it. And Tom mentioned, “Hey, I imply, you guys are mainly the fan membership. Why don’t you come on out and are available to the star ceremony?”

 

And so we got here out, went to the occasion. It was very personal. I believe there was possibly 70 individuals. I imply, we’re speaking it’s Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, David Spade, Tom Arnold, Gary Busey, the blokes from Paramount, his household, and us. And it was very intimate. And acquired to the star ceremony, went to the after-party, and frolicked with all people. It was form of a celebration, but additionally form of somber. You understand, I bear in mind Adam Sandler simply being tremendous unhappy and… However then and we, yeah, turned the unofficial official Chris Farley Fan Membership that day. And so I turned the president of that.

 

We did an occasion a few years later right here in Utah the place, you realize, his brothers got here in and we did this large get together to lift cash for the muse. And we had, like, pizza and it was the meat lovers pizza within the trunk pizza part. We had the rooster wings. There was the Tommy likey, Tommy Need Wingy rooster wings. And had standup comedians come and performed all his films. And so I keep in contact fairly repeatedly together with his brothers to this present day, had them on my podcast final 12 months. We discuss it on a regular basis. And only a particular little connection I believe to this man that I by no means met however have been in a position to create a whole lot of, you realize, the enjoyment that I had as a child by means of life was by means of him. So I’ve form of honored him that means.

 

Katie: What a cool story.

 

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And as we get towards the tip of time, one other query I like to ask is that if there’s a e book or a lot of books which have had a profound impression in your life, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. I imply, I’m an enormous reader. And so I used to learn 50 to 100 books a 12 months for a very long time. That was in all probability earlier than I began my podcast. That’s what I’d do. Now I, you realize, examine a whole lot of podcasts and podcast visitors so I can get individuals on my podcast. However I nonetheless learn fairly a bit. And I’d say, if I might decide one e book that each man ought to learn known as “The Approach of the Superior Man” by David Deida. David has personally been a coach of mine as nicely, however he’s, I imply, that e book, simply nails, learn how to present up as a person.

 

However that’s one e book that had an enormous profound change on my life. So many, however “Suppose and Develop Wealthy,” you realize, “The 4 Agreements,” these are all books that I attempt to learn a minimum of as soon as yearly or two. After which something by Brene Brown is particular and teaches you learn how to love humanity a little bit bit higher. And so, yeah, these are a few of my favorites.

 

Katie: And I do know that past a e book, you’ve carried out a lot on this planet we didn’t even get to speak about at the moment, together with a whole lot of work in actual property and a lot extra. So the place can individuals discover you on-line and continue learning about all of the belongings you’re doing?

 

Jimmy: Yeah. The most effective place to seek out me, my Instagram is @mrjimmyrex, and I submit all the things that I’m doing on there. Anytime I’m talking, anytime I’ve occasions, my new podcasts that come out, any, you realize, events that I’m internet hosting or throwing any charity occasions for this charity or others that I’m doing, I share on there. And so simply comply with me on @mrjimmyrex. That’s in all probability one of the best ways. And be at liberty to achieve out anytime if I can assist in any means. I’m excellent at getting again to individuals in my DMs. I do all that myself and so completely satisfied to assist anyone if, you realize, if there’s a necessity that I can help you.

 

Katie: Thanks a lot. And like I mentioned, I’ll make sure that we hyperlink to the entire various things we’ve talked about, particularly the organizations that individuals can help if they’ll’t actively go do work on this space, in addition to to your entire locations that you simply reside on-line. However Jimmy, thanks a lot for taking the time to be right here at the moment. You could have such an enchanting story and the entire adventures of your life. And I’m so grateful for you educating about this and for the work that you simply’ve carried out immediately to assist with this drawback worldwide.

 

Jimmy: Nicely, thanks. It’s one thing that, you realize, when you get into it and also you begin doing it, you notice how particular it’s, how particular to have the ability to assist these individuals which might be on this scenario. I imply, we even have gone in and seen the ladies being, you realize, in these positions and we’ve been in a position to have the rescues. And it’ll change you and it modifications you endlessly. And so it’s particular to me. It’s particular to have the ability to share about it and assist different individuals turn out to be conscious. And so if I can ever do anything to assist unfold consciousness, I’m at all times accessible. And thanks once more for having me on.

 

Katie: Thanks a lot for being right here. And thanks as at all times to all of you who’re listening for sharing your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us at the moment. We’re each so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the “Wellness Mama” podcast.

 

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