Dr. Sonya Jensen on Lady Unleashed and How Stress Shapes Our Hormones

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Katie: Whats up, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from WellnessMama.com and Wellnesse.com, that’s Wellnesse with an E on the tip. And this podcast is all about how stress shapes our hormones and what to do about it. I’m right here with Dr. Sonya Jensen, who’s the creator of “Lady Unleashed,” And she or he’s a naturopathic doctor with a mission to vary the way in which ladies perceive their our bodies and themselves. And she or he has the idea that ladies are the middle of their households and communities, and that by supporting ladies, we’re making a ripple impact to help the whole group. And I wholeheartedly agree along with her on that. She’s the co-founder of Divine Components Well being Heart, The Longevity Lab, and The Well being Ignited Academy along with her husband, Dr. Nicholas Jensen.

 

And on this episode, we go deep on hormones and the way stress, trauma, and childhood experiences can form our hormones, the explanation that extra stress and cortisol can take our progesterone and what to do about it, the primary steps of reversing that course of and balancing hormones, her query for meals in life which is: Is that this nourishing me?, shift into parasympathetic and sign to the physique that it’s secure, her 80/20 well being, prime dietary supplements for ladies, enhance your progesterone, and a lot extra. Actual fact-packed episode, and let’s be a part of Dr. Jensen. Dr. Sonya, welcome. Thanks for being right here.

 

Dr. Sonya: Thanks for having me. It’s so good to see you this time.

 

Katie: Good to see you too. You’re a requested repeat visitor, and I’m so excited as a result of you have got a brand new guide that I simply acquired to take a look at, referred to as “Lady Unleashed,” which we’re gonna speak about immediately, and I believe there’s a lot on this that’s actually related to ladies, particularly… I imply, all the time, however particularly proper now, from the ladies I hear from, and from my very own private expertise, and I believe there’s a lot we will study from you immediately. To start out broad, I’m certain folks have perhaps, like, a passing understanding of the connection, however are you able to sort of stroll us by how stress, and trauma, and childhood experiences, and even generational trauma can form our hormones and our physique and our blueprint?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. For certain. That’s an ideal query. And the story actually does start even earlier than we have been born, within the womb, relying on our mom’s well being and simply how she’s perceiving her world, and the hormones that we’re receiving from her give us data on the sort of atmosphere we’re going to be born into. So that really modifications our phenotype and the hormones that we produce, in order that we will really be accepted into this new tribe that we are going to be born into. And from day one, we begin to sort of observe the environment, we undergo these experiences that then are imprinted into our mind. So, when, it may very well be one thing so simple as, as we’re rising up, perhaps we didn’t obtain the eye that we wished from our dad or mum, although they have been doing their finest. So, it may very well be a micro-experienced trauma, or it may very well be an enormous T trauma, the place we’ve skilled one thing that has compelled our mind to have a look at its atmosphere, to get all of the cues, just like the sights, the sounds, the smells, and prepare the mind to know if we ever really feel this manner once more, if we ever discover these triggers ever once more, the way in which to reply is with our battle, flight, freeze, or please state of affairs, which is our sympathetic nervous system, proper? So, it prompts that nervous system.

 

So, quick ahead, now, we may very well be in a relationship, or we might simply be doing on a regular basis life, and abruptly there’s a scent. Possibly mother was cooking one thing when our mother and father have been preventing sooner or later, and it triggers the mind to sort of return to that reminiscence, and our emotional middle holds onto that reminiscence, the hippocampus, all of them sort of speak to at least one one other, after which, once more, activate that sympathetic drive, which then turns off our parasympathetic and people thriving hormones, like progesterone, testosterone, and estrogen, that really assist us thrive and navigate life the way in which we’re required, and the way in which we have to for fertility and simply general well being, and if we’re continuously in that sympathetic drive, it’s actually arduous for the physique to do what must be executed to ensure that us to really feel wholesome.

 

Katie: Completely. I do know I’ve skilled this firsthand, and seen it in the previous couple of years in my very own life, with… Positively, I had massive T trauma, and what I’m realizing now’s some smaller ones as nicely, that I sort of discounted compared to the larger one, however I used to be, for a decade, doing all of the issues “proper,” and by the books, and all of the eating regimen and the dietary supplements and the train, and it wasn’t till I handled that different piece and let go of the trauma that all the pieces else shifted. And what was superb was I had labored… I felt like I’d labored so arduous making an attempt to battle my physique all these years, after which after I handled this piece, all these issues acquired a lot simpler and all of the well being stuff resolved itself. And since I’ve began speaking about that, I do know… I’ve heard from so many ladies who have been like, “How did you do it? What have been the steps?” And that’s why I used to be so excited to have you ever on. However speak extra about how the hormones in that state of affairs are principally inflicting havoc within the physique in all elements of life? As a result of I noticed it and I felt it, and I do know you perceive and might clarify it.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. For certain. So, after we take into consideration stress usually, we launch hormones like cortisol and adrenaline to navigate that have and transfer us by that have. However to ensure that us to try this, we have now to close down our progesterone, as a result of progesterone will get transformed into cortisol. So, what’s progesterone? So, if it’s a menstruating lady, for instance, the primary half of your cycle, after you bleed, it’s predominantly geared in the direction of utilizing estrogen, after which testosterone if you’re ovulating. So, throughout that first half of your cycle, you might have a bit extra power, you’re feeling a bit bit extra outward certain, and need to get issues executed, whereas the second half of your cycle, as quickly as you ovulate, progesterone is meant to shine, and progesterone may be very anti-anxiety, it’s anti-depressive, it’s the one which simply helps regulate our total system. So if that’s getting depleted because of this imprint in our psyche and in our nervous system, of all the time being very vigilant and all the time trying by the lens that we could also be in peril after we’re the environment, we’re continuously depleting that hormone.

 

So now, we would see irregulation in our cycle, we would see PMS signs, we would see weight acquire due to that. So, when that’s taking place, and we’re not addressing these traumas and these tales, we may very well be doing all the fitting issues, we may very well be consuming all the fitting issues, we may very well be taking the dietary supplements, however that upstream issue, that was initially giving the sign, or creating this communication pathway between the mind and the remainder of your physique, that’s what must shift. That’s the factor that we have to unravel and unveil to ensure that us to create a brand new sample the place we will perceive that we’re not all the time in peril, that that is one thing that’s had a maintain of us, however we don’t all the time need to be there. We might be within the parasympathetic, after which we will step into motion when we have to.

 

Katie: Yeah. That’s such an necessary piece. I noticed after I labored by it that I had most likely been totally on sympathetic for actually years and years and years, and preventing my physique, and realizing, after all, my physique just isn’t gonna heal and relaxation and digest and sleep nicely if you’re in that state. And, that mentioned, I do know it’s additionally very multifaceted, and that there’s plenty of individuality that comes into play right here, however let’s begin broad with how do you begin to determine these components after which carry these hormones again into steadiness?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. For certain. So, within the guide, I’ve these pause moments. So, typically, we are going to know in our thoughts after we are responding to life not the way in which we really need to, but it surely’s coming from this response place. So, we could also be having a dialog with somebody and having this sense inside our physique that simply doesn’t really feel like ourselves, and we’re reacting, and we’re irritable, and all of the actions that we’re taking, we might wanna go on this eating regimen and do rather well, however there’s all the time one thing that drives us to seize onto that meals that we all know isn’t gonna serve our physique, so, pausing and asking ourself this query of, “Who does this story really belong to? What are my driving forces? Like, what drives me to make these selections? What’s the muse on which I’ve constructed my life on, and this lens that I’m sporting?”

 

The extra questions we start to ask, the extra curious we grow to be of why issues are taking place the way in which they’re. So, within the guide, I additionally lay out this questionnaire the place you get to determine if you’re the duchess, the diva, or the damsel. So, these are these three archetypes that we might have put into our life. We might have captured these roles and put these masks on with a purpose to survive our moments. So, for instance, the duchess, she could also be somebody that, you recognize, will get all the pieces executed completely. So, she is on schedule, on level, extra of a Kind A. She could also be a CEO. She’s someone that runs her family, very organized, and simply will get the job executed. So, that’s such a present. And she or he additionally has to stay in additional of that yang, sympathetic state to ensure that her to get that executed.

 

So well being by no means actually is a precedence. So, on this state, she might not sit down and eat her meals and chew correctly, as a result of she doesn’t have time, proper? Or she is simply on the go on a regular basis, so perhaps now she’s coping with IBS, and perhaps irregular cycles, and all this stuff, their indicators are exhibiting up in her physique, however she will be able to’t cease and truly have a look at that as a result of if she does, she’ll really feel unraveled and he or she doesn’t have time to really feel unraveled. It’s actually asking your self the query of, “The place am I in that triangle of disconnect,” that I speak about. “What are my driving forces? After which what can I do to help myself in making an alternate determination, in order that I can unpack what’s really happening right here?”

 

Katie: Yeah. I positively can resonate with elements of that, and I believe, for me, a part of it was a response to that feeling of helplessness and the trauma was to then management each variable, and run all the pieces in a really regimented method. And I needed to learn to unpack that, and likewise to search out gratitude for it, as a result of what I noticed was that mechanism occurred to guard me. My unconscious was doing its job. It was for, such as you mentioned, for security and survival. That’s not a foul factor, but it surely wasn’t a factor I wanted anymore. And so, it was studying to launch that. And I additionally keep in mind in that section worrying I used to be gonna lose my edge, as a result of that was the factor that drove me to get a lot executed. And I inform ladies now, it’s, you don’t lose your edge, you simply get to decide on if you use the sword. And I believe that’s the actually necessary distinction.

 

Dr. Sonya: Sure, that id, proper? So, we really feel like we’re gonna lose that id, and there typically might be plenty of grief round that, and an unknown, and that unknown can really feel like a really scary place.

 

Katie: Completely. And it’s led to this fascinating discovery. I do know you speak about a few of these issues too so far as childhood stuff, and realizing, like, I had, by all accounts, distinctive mother and father, and but there have been nonetheless ways in which I wanted to most likely be cherished a bit otherwise than what they have been doing, and having the ability to acknowledge that and work by it with out it being a fault of theirs, there didn’t have to be any guilt or blame there, however realizing, like, that was a factor I might, as an grownup, now work by and transfer to a more healthy place with. After which the generational facet as nicely, are you able to speak a bit bit about that? I do know you’ve talked about it some.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, you recognize, chatting with what occurs after we’re within the womb, sort of begins from our mom’s story, after which, particularly as ladies, we positively carry seven generations earlier than all of the tales which were handed down. As we all know, life-style will get handed down, tales get handed down, and actually, the ability is held within the storyteller, and sometimes, what occurs as these tales are being handed down on how we’re speculated to behave, how we’re speculated to look, the conditioning that we obtain from a really younger age has been happening for generations and generations, and it actually isn’t till we grow to be aware of the truth that we’ve been dwelling out these situations, slightly than from our truest essence, from who we actually know we’re on the core, we then get a possibility to unravel and heal even issues which were handed down from earlier than. Like, many traditions will communicate to when you heal, you heal seven generations earlier than and 7 generations ahead.

 

And this has been mapped out in genetics. So, as we begin to change, we begin to change the lineage, and we begin to change the story we’ve been carrying on our backs for thus lengthy, so we don’t move it ahead. And sometimes, in the event you simply pause and begin to acknowledge and observe, for instance, even our mother and father, if we begin to observe them, with out emotion, and begin to perceive that they have been doing the most effective that they may with the knowledge they’d, identical with their mother and father and the mother and father earlier than, it takes away the maintain that a few of these tales might have on us, or these beliefs, and we will begin to actually perceive that, “I can provide myself permission to launch this. It’s not my obligation to carry onto this, but when something, it’s my obligation to heal all the traumas and the tales” that, you recognize, as collectively, as ladies, that we supply too, from many, many generations in the past. You realize, many generations in the past, ladies weren’t secure to even categorical themselves and their energy. And so, that in itself will get embedded into our genetic story and into our DNA, so then we navigate and tiptoe all through the world from that place. So, the second we acknowledge that what actions we’re really dwelling out immediately essentially aren’t ours to do, it creates extra freedom as nicely.

 

Katie: And I wanna go deeper on the perhaps the stress aid and the interior work facet, however earlier than we do, one factor I’ve seen, it looks like particularly perhaps in trauma survivors or individuals who have a few of these patterns, particularly as ladies, is sort of an undereating, under-nourishing, which the factor I seen in myself, is that I used to be that sort of pushed, duchess kind, and I didn’t make time… And I used to be additionally making an attempt to deprive myself, as a result of I used to be making an attempt to, like, be a sure measurement and look a sure approach, and there have been plenty of tales intertwined with that. And after I actually began monitoring it, I noticed I used to be drastically undereating, and I had form of educated my physique cues to not have pure starvation anymore, and it is a factor I’ve heard now from plenty of ladies which have simply actually, like, not consuming sufficient nourishing meals. Is that one thing you see as nicely?

 

Dr. Sonya: Oh, on a regular basis. And even by my very own private expertise, after I was 13, I went by anorexia. And I communicate to that within the guide as nicely, and simply not having management of my exterior world, meals was the way in which that… I used meals as punishment, as a result of in the case of our tradition, meals is how we join, proper? Like, feeding folks is, like, primary precedence. Doesn’t matter who it’s, someone walks into our, you feed them. And I noticed afterwards that I used to be utilizing it virtually as a weapon in the direction of my household, as a result of I wasn’t accountable for my life, that I felt, at the moment. And if you begin to perceive that relationship with meals, and simply nourishment in itself, like, nourishment isn’t simply meals, it’s the conversations that we have now, it’s what we watch. It’s who we let into our circle of belief. It’s all of these issues.

 

So, the query that I all the time typically seed in ladies is asking your self, “Is that this going to nourish me?” as quickly as we’re making a choice. So, if it’s a choice… Even for fasting, for instance. I’m an intermittent quicker now, and I train on fasting, and but, I’m all the time asking myself that query, “Is that this quick going to nourish me, or is that this going to deplete me?” So, as you begin to marvel about that, and grow to be inquisitive about that, you begin to perceive why you’re making the choice that you’re, why you’re selecting the connection that you’re. What are you receiving from that? Are you receiving love and connection, or are you giving of your self and never capable of say no and don’t have boundaries, since you really feel that’s the one approach that you simply’re gonna really feel like you possibly can belong, or really feel accepted? So, it simply opens up this door to marvel of your self, and extra self-discovery.

 

Katie: That’s an exquisite query. And I’ve heard it mentioned that “boundaries are how I can love myself and another person on the identical time,” It’s an exquisite reframe. And I’d love to speak extra now about how, like, perhaps the practices we will incorporate into our lives that assist steadiness hormones, extra on the notice, and perhaps meditation facet, getting extra into that parasympathetic.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. That parasympathetic drive is so, so necessary in the case of altering that communication in your hormones, as a result of as we all know, hormones are simply communicators, proper? In order that they’re gonna reply to their atmosphere. So, one stunning approach of adjusting the indicators in that atmosphere might be by meditation. And meditation can look otherwise for everybody. It may very well be a stroll within the woods, and that’s meditative. It may very well be placing on an ideal music and dancing, and that’s meditative. It may very well be sitting for just some minutes, and simply being in gratitude for all times this morning, or immediately. So, it’s the second we step into that house of marvel and reverence of ourselves, and that getting actually tuned in to that coronary heart house, is after we can begin opening up that connection inside ourselves. And the second we make that call to attach, we will’t return, proper?

 

So, we will actually step into that house of being extra in our yin, which is a girl’s pure state, as a result of we do carry yang and yin inside us. We now have a masculine female facet, and we have now that feminine female facet as nicely. However recognizing that usually, we step into the yang, to get issues executed, to be of significance on the earth immediately. So, to counteract that, to ensure that us to be in our softness, and likewise in our power on the identical time, issues like meditation, issues like yoga, issues that offer you pleasure, are going to activate that oxytocin. They’re gonna activate that response in your physique, that will help you really feel settled and grounded in your self. So, no matter that appears like for you, perhaps it’s artwork. Proper, it may very well be something, however any time your focus is in simply that current second and also you’re not future-projecting or dwelling prior to now, in despair, or anxiousness for the longer term, everytime you’re in that current second, no matter exercise you’re doing, maintain on to that, and convey that up as part of your day by day behavior, and non-negotiable.

 

And my non-negotiable is my morning routine. So, typically, that’s motion, as a result of I’m in my thoughts a lot. I’m very a lot that Vata structure, in the case of ayurvedic medication, so I’m typically in my thoughts, I’m a worrier, I’m all the time considering. So to ensure that me to really feel grounded, I’ve to step into my physique, so my meditation is motion. And so, my morning is nonnegotiable. And, you recognize, working with plenty of mothers, too, with younger children, and, I imply, you have got six. I solely have two, and even two is lots to deal with typically, however typically it’s behavior stacking, proper? So, perhaps they’re doing one thing and I’m cooking for them, and I’m doing, like, calf raises on the identical time, simply to carry consciousness to I’m nonetheless in my physique, I’m nonetheless proper right here, proper now.

 

Katie: Yeah. I’d love to listen to another components of your morning routine as nicely, or, perhaps, 80/20 high-value issues that individuals can do to include. As a result of I do know that was an element I confronted in my very own restoration, was that I had indifferent from my physique, and I needed to, like, re-learn to be in my physique and hearken to my physique.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. Once I realized about how my thoughts capabilities, that basically helped help me too. So, my thoughts seems for the unfavorable. It seems for the holes and the gaps in a state of affairs, as a result of it’s defending me due to my big-T trauma. So my thoughts is used to its atmosphere and understanding what’s going to go incorrect. So, for me, my morning observe, and my non-negotiable, is gratitude. So, waking up and simply being grateful for waking up. It’s so simple as that. After which as quickly as I put my toes on the bottom, being grateful that I can really feel my toes on the bottom. After which going to the lavatory, I’ve really integrated now Mel Robbins’ excessive 5, so, giving your self a excessive 5. As a result of the second we have a look at ourselves within the mirror, we have now all of this stuff happening in our thoughts, our to-do lists, all of the issues we’re not good at. “Oh, my goodness, I’ve luggage underneath my eyes,” like, all this stuff begin to present up. However the second you honor your self in a bit little bit of reverence with that top 5, it modifications what your thoughts goes to do subsequent. It modifications the way you’re referring to your self.

 

After which I transfer into having my massive cup of water with a bit little bit of lemon, after which transfer into my observe, whether or not that’s motion with yoga, or a HIIT train. After which I’m doing a sauna, chilly showers. That’s an enormous a part of my observe as nicely. Once more, something that’s gonna carry me into my physique is what I would like for myself. After which, because the day goes by, too, I’ve moments that I seize. So, for me, having a cup of tea is a second for me, and it reminds my thoughts and my psyche that I’m making myself a precedence, and that I’m necessary. So it may very well be so simple as having a cup of tea, a cup of espresso by yourself, studying one thing, simply discovering these little moments all through the day can create a profound impact for the remainder of your life, actually. So it doesn’t need to be this grand occasion, this big spa day, which, I imply, I like. Love my spa days, however actually, you are able to do little issues each single day that begin to create big modifications, and helps you grow to be increasingly more of the observer of you.

 

Katie: Yeah. I like these. I’m an enormous fan of gratitude observe as nicely, and likewise, yeah, massive one is non-negotiable going exterior as quickly as potential after waking up, and getting daylight. So, typically my motion, or my studying, or no matter is exterior. There’s a lot cool analysis on that mild hitting our eyes within the morning, and triggering these sure receptors in our eyes that basically are good for hormones and serving to with sleep afterward, and I positively discover that correlation after I don’t do it. I see that lack that. In the case of hormones, I additionally hear from plenty of ladies who battle with hormone-specific issues, whether or not it’s PMS, or sizzling flashes, or endometriosis, or PCOS. Do you have got any suggestions for particular, whether or not physique or thoughts, balancing these?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, after I was chatting with the duchess, and the opposite two archetypes are the diva and the damsel. So I’ll give an instance of the damsel, for instance. The damsel normally seems at all the pieces as half empty, and he or she’s the one that may’t say no, proper? She’s volunteering, she’s doing all the pieces for her household, as a result of, once more, that’s how she obtained significance and that feeling of being necessary and belonging. So typically, this lady might have thyroid points, as a result of she’s not capable of voice her opinion and communicate her reality, and he or she might even be rising issues inside her physique like cysts, as a result of the counter polarity of not having the ability to say no is resentment, as a result of she’s probably not doing it from a spot of true service, she’s doing it from a spot of depletion. So typically, after I discover a lady has, you recognize, cysts on her ovaries, and once more, in Chinese language medication, ovaries and resentment are additionally correlated… Anger is correlated to the liver.

 

After we begin to have a look at these situations, and perceive that what’s the emotional cue that’s creating this completely different communication inside your physique, and begin resolving that, then the physiology additionally follows. So, endometriosis is a large one for thus many ladies in immediately’s world, and sometimes, the query I’ll seed for that lady is when in your life did you not really feel secure in your atmosphere or in your house? As a result of at that second, the uterine lining, that endometrium, is making an attempt to depart. It’s making an attempt to depart its house as a result of it doesn’t really feel secure there. So what can we do to carry extra security into your life, to carry extra steadiness into your life, so that you simply really feel safe in your self, and never searching for it from the skin world?

 

So, after we begin to create these correlations, these aha moments occur for ladies, and so they begin to sort of unravel that story that perhaps they’ve been holding on to, after which we will have a look at the physiology, too, and say, “Okay. Effectively, that is how your physique’s been responding, so your progesterone’s decrease, your estrogen perhaps is dominant, your testosterone can also be low. So how can we help that with issues that we all know we will do with the herbs, and the meals, and the nourishment from that facet, but in addition, how can we unveil the story that you simply’ve been carrying for thus lengthy, and the way can we unravel that to now serve you, so to perceive the items from that story, and it’s not controlling you, however as a substitute, you get to make use of that story, and have power to navigate your world?”

 

Katie: That’s stunning. And I believe it’s, such as you mentioned, it’s a small, intentional observe, and that consciousness goes such a good distance. I additionally am an enormous believer in that we’re a lot the product of the questions we ask, whether or not it’s internally, by our personal unconscious, or externally to others, and I believe anytime we will quiet for a minute and take note of that, we see the outcomes time and again and over. I additionally hear from plenty of ladies who, particularly after the final two years, are very overwhelmed, and scuffling with motivation and power, and so I’d love to speak about methods we will begin growing power to even have the motivation to do these inventive issues and to do these practices which can be useful.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. That’s an ideal query, as a result of I do discover you must work in your physique first earlier than you possibly can go into your psyche and have a look at all these feelings. As a result of in case your physique is drained, there’s no approach you’re gonna be capable of deep dive into your story and what it’s essential unravel. So, some issues that you are able to do every day is intermittent fasting is a good observe to get up these vitamins inside your physique which can be already obtainable to you to feed your mind. So, doing a bit little bit of fasting, nourishing your physique with meals that’s gonna nourish your hormones. So, for instance, the primary half of your cycle, you wanna nourish your physique with extra wholesome fat. The final half of your cycle, you wanna nourish your physique with wholesome carbohydrates. So feeding your mind and your thoughts goes to make an enormous distinction on how you’re responding to life, as a result of now we’re creating extra power. We’re creating extra gas inside your system.

 

Understanding if there’s stuff in your atmosphere that is perhaps making a sluggish atmosphere in your physique and decreasing power, so, is there toxicity in your meals? Are you not consuming natural? Is there toxicity within the merchandise that you simply’re utilizing? Is there toxicity in what you’re cooking with? So, going from room to room, I discover, simplifies all the pieces, so we will do away with what we will management, after which detoxifying our interior selves, in order that we will make room now for that therapeutic to occur, and dealing with somebody to sort of do a deeper dive is admittedly necessary, and there are such a lot of issues that you are able to do simply at house, like a castor oil pack routine, dry brushing routine, if in case you have entry to a sauna, infrared sauna. So, all the time ensuring we’re making an attempt to empty that bodily bucket, in order that we have now time and house to now go into our emotional bucket and begin emptying the tales out from there.

 

Katie: Yeah. And I really feel prefer it’s sort of a self-perpetuating cycle. After we begin doing the bodily issues, we have now extra motivation, then power, that we’re capable of do the interior work, and likewise then, that makes us extra motivated to do the bodily issues. Whereas backwards, too, if we get in that sort of overwhelmed cycle after which we’re not doing the issues, then it’s tougher to do it, and it sort of goes backwards. However I believe you’re proper. Like, the newborn steps make the massive distinction, and it’s what can we begin sustainably, that isn’t going so as to add to the overwhelm, and that’s gonna slowly enhance our bandwidth to have the ability to add in additional, it looks like.

 

Dr. Sonya: As a result of it’s very easy to enter this mindset of, like, “I’m failing.” Proper? After we attempt to go on this different observe, the place we’re doing all the fitting issues and actually placing a lot on our plate, as a result of we actually wanna sort out what’s taking place, but when we simply do these small steps and have these small victories. So I encourage ladies to make success lists. Like, even writing down issues you recognize you’re gonna get executed that day. I’m gonna bathe. So I’m writing that down on my record. I’m gonna brush my enamel. I’m writing that down on my record. It’s simply that act of checking that off, and that reassurance within the thoughts and the mind that sure, I can get issues executed. And that additionally doesn’t outline me, that, all of what’s taking place is a journey. So the extra we deal with what we will do and we will have management over, we’re capable of let go of what we will’t management.

 

Katie: Yeah. That’s an ideal reframe. And I, for a very long time, managed all the pieces on my cellphone, simply because expertise is such part of our life now. And I’ve lately switched again to a planner, not for calendar stuff, however for my day by day job record, and for gratitude, simply because there may be, such as you mentioned, one thing that’s actually useful about that tangible crossing one thing off a listing, and likewise, to me, writing out what I’m grateful for, it simply helps cement it, and helps me, like, actually internalize it much more. And it looks like for ladies particularly, like, journaling, and even simply drawing, one thing like that, is a really useful observe to, like, you mentioned get the interior, and begin processing it, and assist it get out.

 

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I additionally hear from plenty of ladies who appear to have pores and skin points, and it looks like this could positively be hormone-related as nicely. Do you have got any particular suggestions for skin-related points?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, in the case of the pores and skin, it truly is your liver that’s talking, proper? So, typically, ladies can have cystic zits earlier than their interval, and that’s typically because of estrogen dominance, and since the liver perhaps is congested. So, like I used to be chatting with the castor oil packs. You are able to do castor oil packs. You wanna detoxify, and also you wanna make sure that your intestine is shifting. So, wholesome bowel actions day by day. In order that may very well be merely including one thing like Triphala to your nighttime routine. That’s a powder that has three ayurvedic herbs in there, you could put in heat water after your final meal. So, that may actually serve you. Having some ghee and, like, golden milk earlier than mattress, that’s additionally gonna serve your intestine, and the butyrate in your intestine. Ensuring you’re having issues like floor flaxseed, chia, hemp, like, fibers. Prebiotics are additionally gonna help that as nicely, as a result of, once more, you’re simply amplifying that wholesome micro organism in your intestine, in order that the estrobolome, which is a gaggle of micro organism in your intestine, have the capability to work with the liver to detoxify these extra estrogens from the atmosphere and out of your physique.

 

So the extra you do this, the much less your bucket fills up day by day, and has to make use of your pores and skin to secrete these toxins out of the physique. As a result of in the event you see your self as a bucket, as, you recognize, the physique, and we fill it up day by day with completely different toxicities, we have now these emunctories and pathways of elimination that assist help decreasing that load. So, that’s your intestine, your lymphatics, your kidneys, your mucous membranes. But when any of these are clogged up, your pores and skin being the biggest organ, it’s simply straightforward to push issues out of the pores and skin. So with a purpose to help the pores and skin, you must help your lymph, your intestine, your kidney, so simply ensuring issues are flowing and shifting each single day.

 

Katie: And for people who find themselves simply beginning… I do know we’ve touched on most likely just a few of them, however what could be a few of perhaps, like, the 80/20, you recognize, 20% of issues that give the most important bang on your buck if you’re overwhelmed and also you solely can do child steps, the place could be a few of the finest beginning factors?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, waking up and having that lemon water motion is gonna enhance your lymphatic circulate. Dry brushing, if you may get a dry brush and simply use that, and giving your self a therapeutic massage with some sesame oil, that’s gonna be supportive. Your first meal, if it’s a smoothie, you possibly can put in these fibers, and that in itself will begin simply motion to occur. And in your nighttime routine, you possibly can put in simply that teaspoon of Triphala, and perhaps a castor oil pack, so a bit little bit of castor oil over your stomach, and a sizzling water bottle and a towel. It may very well be so simple as that. And that may very well be your day by day routine, simply to sort of get issues shifting.

 

Katie: After which, I’d love to the touch on sleep as nicely, as a result of it looks like every time there are hormone points, typically, sleep points go proper alongside with it. After which, we all know from the analysis, sleep is among the most core, foundational issues for all elements of well being, and in over 500 episodes of this podcast I’ve by no means had anybody say high quality sleep just isn’t necessary. It appears to be, like, one of many issues each skilled can agree on, and it appears, clearly, a fall-down level for lots of ladies, and mothers particularly, for tons and plenty of causes. Any suggestions for enhancing sleep?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. Sleep is so necessary in the case of our hormones and our circadian rhythm. And simply going again to that progesterone piece, progesterone, GABA, and melatonin are finest associates. So, when melatonin is low due to our excessive cortisol, it’s going to have an effect on progesterone. When progesterone is low, it may well’t activate the receptors within the mind to obtain GABA. So then GABA is gonna be low, which creates extra of that wired drained feeling within the night, and doesn’t actually permit the physique to settle down earlier than mattress so we will have a restful sleep. So, sleep is so necessary. So, having a sleep routine is admittedly necessary, and actually, going to mattress earlier than 11:00 p.m. So, that’s additionally key, since you don’t wanna carry up your cortisol after 11:00 p.m., as a result of your physique thinks you’re awake. In order that’s gonna mess up your circadian rhythm.

 

So, earlier than 11:00 p.m., you wanna be going to mattress, and also you need a routine that really, you recognize, eliminates the blue mild. So perhaps having crimson mild blockers on in the event you’re watching one thing, however actually, placing away expertise as shortly as you possibly can after dinner, studying one thing, having that gratitude observe, one thing, once more, to sort of carry your out of your thoughts and into your physique, so you possibly can launch the day, and transfer into that dream state and extra of a peaceful and relaxed method.

 

And, sure, so it’s gonna be issues that individuals can use, like melatonin and CBD, and lots of herbs, that may be actually useful. However what you actually wanna perceive is, first, what are the issues that I’m doing, ranging from the purpose after I get up to the night, as a result of as quickly as we get up, we’re preparing for sleep. So, all of the habits, all of the issues that we’re consuming, ensuring that we’re maintaining a healthy diet fats in our final meal, in order that our glucose isn’t driving up, and likewise growing that cortisol, not permitting melatonin to do its job. So these are some issues you could simply sort of observe about your self, and have virtually, like, a sleep journal, to know, “Okay. What are some issues I can incorporate into my life that may enhance that high quality sleep?” And, you recognize, many individuals have Oura Ring. My husband’s obsessed along with his Oura Ring, and you’ll simply have a look at your information and perceive, “Okay. Once I eat this dinner, that is affecting my coronary heart fee variability. It’s affecting my parasympathetic nervous system.” And all that information is gonna present you what you possibly can or can’t do within the night that’s gonna help deep sleep for you.

 

Katie: Yeah. I’m additionally an enormous fan of my Oura Ring, and likewise, the Chilipad has been a game-changer for me for sleep. However the Oura Ring, particularly, you’re proper. You begin to see the patterns, and it’s studying issues like irrespective of how a lot I might imagine I wish to drink wine at night time, my deep sleep doesn’t fall after I drink wine at night time. And I’ve realized some useful issues, and if I eat sufficient protein throughout the day, my deep sleep loves that, and it’s helped me study myself in that approach. You’ve additionally talked about progesterone just a few occasions, and the way necessary it’s. Is that one thing you’d advocate supplementing with, or if not, what are the methods to assist form of naturally increase that with out utilizing some sort of exterior complement?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, I typically use bioidentical hormones with ladies if it’s wanted. So getting examined is admittedly necessary, doing all of your DUTCH take a look at to acknowledge the place your progesterone is at, as a result of typically, low progesterone may appear like regular progesterone however low estrogen. So, simply these nuances, to know them, getting examined is necessary in the event you’re gonna go down the route of utilizing progesterone. Different herbs that may actually help your progesterone are herbs which can be gonna act extra like adaptogens, so will assist help that reducing of your cortisol. So, ashwagandha is an exquisite one which you need to use. Chaste tree is an exquisite herb that’s gonna enhance LH but in addition enhance progesterone in your physique. So, these are just a few issues you could make the most of. However in the case of meals, wholesome carbohydrates like yams, and beans, and lentils, and these sorts of issues are gonna help your progesterone as nicely, together with these day by day practices that we spoke about, the meditation, the gratitude, and simply actually engaged on that vagal tone and that parasympathetic state is gonna feed into your progesterone, as a result of it’s gonna reinforce on your physique and your thoughts that you simply’re not in peril. So, the extra we work on that, the extra help your progesterone will really feel.

 

Katie: Yeah. And it’s one other a kind of optimistic suggestions loops, the place as you get higher sleep and as you nourish your physique, then this stuff enhance and so they proceed to need to enhance. Additionally, figuring out, after all, there’s a lot bio-individuality with this query, I’m curious if there are any dietary supplements that you simply discover, on common, very useful for ladies, clearly with the caveat work with somebody who is aware of what they’re doing. However any that you simply see sort of recurring which can be useful for ladies, particularly?

 

Dr. Sonya: My favorites are chaste tree, magnesium. DIM and I3C are actually nice as a result of they’re gonna assist help that liver detox, which can then help your progesterone to rise, after which ashwagandha is my favourite adaptogen, together with rhodiola, is one other favourite of mine, that may actually be supportive, only for that nervous system. After which, once more, understanding your neurotransmitters, so GABA might be actually supportive for ladies as nicely in that final half of her cycle. GABA and a bit little bit of melatonin, to simply help that progesterone drive.

 

Katie: And naturally, as ladies, we have now far more fluctuating hormones than males, which I believe is definitely…is usually a big benefit, as a result of we get these pure modifications all through the month. Are there any issues to concentrate on associated to our cycle, so far as perhaps alternative ways to work out or nourish our our bodies otherwise in numerous components of the month?

 

Dr. Sonya: Sure. I like this query. So, I typically communicate to the seasons of a girl’s life, the seasons of our surroundings, after which the seasons of her cycle. So, you recognize, there’s 4 completely different phases within the cycle. There’s if you’re bleeding. So, what do you wanna do if you’re bleed? As a result of that’s such a time of detoxing, it truly is a time of reflection. So, you might be journaling then, you might be detoxifying feelings, and actually sort of uncovering a few of the issues that perhaps you have been holding on to for the previous month. So, right here, you most likely gained’t be that hungry, so having extra, like, soups and stews, and simply actually nourishing meals, the extra coloured meals, like purple and, like, deep and wealthy colours, since you wanna feed that iron in your physique, as nicely, and simply sort of replenish that.

 

After which as you step out of that section and also you go into your follicular section, that is the place estrogen is gonna begin to rise. So, how will we feed our estrogen? So, wholesome fat like avocado are gonna help that. Right here can also be the place you could possibly most likely do extra HIIT train. There’s extra motion. You would be a bit bit extra aggressive along with your routine, as a result of you have got the capability and the power to try this. Quickly as we step into ovulation, testosterone begins to rise. So, fasting is a bit bit simpler earlier than that. Not a lot throughout ovulation, but in addition recognizing that that is that one time in our cycle the place testosterone will go up. So, typically, libido can be a bit bit greater.

 

Then as we step into our luteal section, and progesterone wants nourishment, it is a time the place your physique needs you to be extra inside, so slowing down. Possibly now you focus extra on yoga, or going for a stroll exterior, consuming these wholesome carbohydrates, journaling a bit bit extra, actually reflecting on life itself, and, like, what’s working for you, what’s not. Saying no extra to exterior issues, and dealing on it from that perspective, and likewise understanding that your libido right here will go down. You realize, typically, there’s this false impression that I ought to really feel the identical all through the whole month, however as a result of our hormones ebb and circulate like that, it’s necessary to know that your libido could also be excessive at one level each cycle, however then it begins to go down, particularly in the event you’re not on the tablet, proper, you’re gonna actually acknowledge these ups and downs, and sometimes, this can be a problem in a relationship. However in the event you perceive your cycle, you possibly can then talk this along with your associate, so additionally they perceive that it is a time the place, you recognize, I’m gonna be a bit bit extra inside and focus extra on me, in order that I can step into the following section of bleeding with extra management, and simply with extra steadiness.

 

Katie: Yeah. And I believe libido is a crucial level, particularly for ladies as nicely. I do know I hear from folks about this very often, and particularly libido seeming to go down with age considerably, however I’m wondering if this additionally is admittedly, like, tied in with a few of these hormone modifications, and if that’s the case, what can ladies do to help libido, clearly, realizing it’s nonetheless gonna ebb and circulate all through the month. However are there issues that usually can assist with that?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. For certain. So, even understanding that’s…starting age 25, our testosterone begins to drop. And with each youngster, we lose about 15% of our testosterone shops. And what are the issues which can be gonna have an effect on testosterone? Insulin goes to have an effect on it. So if there’s any form of insulin resistance in your physique, so, once more, in the event you’re consuming processed meals, or greater carbohydrates, snacking lots, this stuff are gonna enhance your insulin. So the way in which to carry your insulin down is by incorporating that fasting routine that works for you, and likewise growing your wholesome fat, reducing these grains, which can then help your testosterone. Understanding very first thing within the morning, earlier than 8:00 a.m., on an empty abdomen, additionally will increase your testosterone and development hormone. In order that’s one thing you possibly can incorporate additionally, to extend it naturally. After which, doing issues like maca is gonna help it as nicely. So you possibly can actually assist to simply help that testosterone drive inside you thru a few of these habits, in order that if you go into your cycle, you begin to actually perceive that that is really true lack of testosterone, or is it simply part of my cycle presently?

 

As a result of after we undergo perimenopause and menopause, you recognize, it’s sort of nature’s contraception. Testosterone does naturally go down, however you possibly can sort of construct your self up with a few of these habits and resistance coaching and this stuff, to simply help your system, in order that, you recognize, it helps help the connection, but in addition inviting issues in your life that offer you pleasure. I discover the extra oxytocin that will get constructed up within the lady’s physique, the simpler it’s for her to step into having extra libido, as a result of now she will be able to sort of make the aware effort. She will sort of carry that motivation up, as a result of she’s been filling her cup up. When you’re shifting into that section already depleted, that’s what creates extra of that loss in libido.

 

Katie: That is smart. And as we get near the tip of our time, just a few different questions I like to ask are if there’s a guide or a variety of books which have had a profound affect in your life, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.

 

Dr. Sofia: Yeah. Yeah. So, Dr. Edith Eger, she wrote the guide “The Alternative,” and that one’s had a extremely profound impact on me as I went by my journey, and simply realizing how a lot of a selection we actually have in our thoughts, and the actual jail, and the actual problem is admittedly in right here, not a lot within the exterior world. So, we alter this, we alter our story, and we actually start to vary our lives. In order that one, I’ve to say, arms down, has been big for me, and it’s one which I consult with on a regular basis.

 

Katie: I’ll guarantee that’s linked within the present word as nicely, for you guys listening, wellnessmama.fm. And the place can folks discover you, discover your guide, and continue to learn extra?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. Thanks. So, on Instagram, my deal with’s @drsonyajensen, and likewise my web site, drsonyajensen.com. And you may get the guide anyplace on the earth on Amazon, within the U.S., Barnes & Nobles, and in Canada on Indigo or Amazon.

 

Katie: And any parting recommendation for our listeners immediately? It may very well be associated to what we’ve talked about, or one thing totally unrelated.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. Simply give your self a possibility to fall again in love with your self, as a result of there was a second in time in your life, if you faucet into that little woman, that little youngster, the place she thought she was the bomb, and one thing occurred alongside the way in which that took that drive away, that took that have away, and you’ll shift that, as a result of as quickly as you do, you don’t even understand how a lot energy you have got inbuilt you, that you simply’re gonna be capable of categorical into the world.

 

Katie: That’s stunning. I believe it’s an ideal place to wrap up for immediately. Thanks a lot on your time and being right here, and for all the work that you simply do.

 

Dr. Sonya: Thanks. Thanks for all the pieces that you simply do.

 

Katie: And thanks as all the time to all of you for listening and sharing your most dear sources, your time, your power, and your consideration with us immediately. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.”

 

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